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Israel is suspending air strikes for 48 hours

The UN secretary general has called on Security Council members to take urgent action after 54 Lebanese civilians were killed in an Israeli attack on Sunday.
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Hopefully those who perpetrated this hanus act will be put up for war crimes.




How much do you want to be the "Israel apologists" on this forum will make up more absurd excuses for this?
 
Only a few places are running the story at the moment.

No word of Hezbollah's response.
 
Dustin said:
How much do you want to be the "Israel apologists" on this forum will make up more absurd excuses for this?
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I didn't bother starting a thread on Qana. I'm not going to get into the argument of "how long after the Hezbollah fighters have left a launch site does the site remain a viable target?"

No fighters, no rockets = not a military target

doesn't matter who was where earlier.



On the thread topic,

Other sites are saying the suspension will only apply in the south.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...30/international/i140851D28.DTL&type=politics

Israel has agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity in south Lebanon while it investigates an attack on a Lebanese village that killed a number of children, U.S. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said Sunday.
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The 48hrs is also to allow civilians to flee.
 
FireGarden said:
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The 48hrs is also to allow civilians to flee.
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This is assuming...

1.They are healthy enough. Which is unlikely.

2.They have vehicles. Which is unlikely.

3.The roads have not been destroyed by israel. Also unlikely.



The most likely case....Many will still remain and many more will still die after Israel goes foward with this "pseudo investigation" into what happened. Assuming it's even going to occur.
 
The UN was earlier asking for 72hrs to get the civilians out. They'll just work harder, or there'll be an extension.

Even if they don't get them all the way out, they'll move them some place safer.
 
Dustin said:
Hopefully those who perpetrated this hanus act will be put up for war crimes.




How much do you want to be the "Israel apologists" on this forum will make up more absurd excuses for this?
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Is it an "absurd excuse" to hit the wrong target, or to be mistaken about what or whom is present at a target? I'm not sure how to avoid that short of refusing to engage the enemy at all.
 
WIll this instantly-declared cease-fire be respected by Hezbollah as well?
 
gnome said:
Is it an "absurd excuse" to hit the wrong target, or to be mistaken about what or whom is present at a target? I'm not sure how to avoid that short of refusing to engage the enemy at all.
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There comes a time after a certain number of "accidents" that you have to stop and think, "Maybe this wasn't an accident afterall".


How many more "accidents" until you start to question Israel?


5 more? 10 more? 1,000 more innocent civilians dead?

What?
 
webfusion said:
WIll this instantly-declared cease-fire be respected by Hezbollah as well?
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As it's not a ceasefire, but a suspension of air strikes and the Hezbollah doesn't have an air force, I don't see how they would be able not to.
 
Leif Roar said:
As it's not a ceasefire, but a suspension of air strikes and the Hezbollah doesn't have an air force, I don't see how they would be able not to.
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Hezbollah has a rocket force. Will they suspend rocket attacks if Israel stops air strikes?
 
SteveGrenard said:
Hezbollah has a rocket force. Will they suspend rocket attacks if Israel stops air strikes?
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No, but then I doubt Israel will suspend their artillery attacks for this period either. (Kayusha rockets are properly classified as artillery.)
 
I guess now that Israel has decided that stopping the bombing for a little while in the face of civilian casualties Thier decision will be supported by the apologia ( now that this is the offical line).

People who previously called for a suspension of airstrikes were labelled terrorist supporters etc....does this mean that the apologia will be labelling the israeli government (taking this decision) as supporting hezbolla?

Bad day for Warmongers...possibly having to critisize Israel for not keeping the civilian death rates up.

I applaud this decision of Israel to pause while they have a good look at what they are doing and what it is achieving....
 
The Fool said:
People who previously called for a suspension of airstrikes were labelled terrorist supporters etc....does this mean that the apologia will be labelling the israeli government (taking this decision) as supporting hezbolla?
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Can you name one person who specifically called for an end to air strikes rather than a more general claim that Israeli responses were "disproportionate"?
 
The Fool said:
I guess now that Israel has decided that stopping the bombing for a little while in the face of civilian casualties Thier decision will be supported by the apologia ( now that this is the offical line).

People who previously called for a suspension of airstrikes were labelled terrorist supporters etc....does this mean that the apologia will be labelling the israeli government (taking this decision) as supporting hezbolla?

Bad day for Warmongers...possibly having to critisize Israel for not keeping the civilian death rates up.

I applaud this decision of Israel to pause while they have a good look at what they are doing and what it is achieving....
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The IAF is trying to debrief the mission pilots and determine what times those bombs were dropped versus when the building exploded.
This debriefing session is the same process as took place with the navy and air force and ground troops in the aftermath of the Gaza Beach incident on June 9th. The IDF halted all shelling then, and kept to their unilateral cease-fire, until the events of 25 June at Sufa Crossing led to IDF incursions of Gaza, and artillery barrages resumed.

The civilian casualties in QANA apparently were the result of Hezbollah storing high-explosives in the building and they detonated. If it turns out that civilians were residing in an arms-depot, well, that certainly absolves the IAF of responsibility!
 
webfusion said:
The civilian casualties in QANA apparently were the result of Hezbollah storing high-explosives in the building and they detonated. If it turns out that civilians were residing in an arms-depot, well, that certainly absolves the IAF of responsibility!
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You left out the bit about this being all your own work.....a novel in the making?

Maybe it was a mass suicide? Maybe it was a gas leak? Maybe aliens? Anyway...still around 47500 civilian deaths to go until we reach the figure you think would be unnacceptable. Personally, I think GWB will give you a wakeup call well before that.

I undersand the need for plausable deniability but you need to do more work on the plausable bit......
 
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