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is the SGU burying its head in the sand?

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hi all. i have been a keen listener for a few years but recently am saddened by their reluctance to even mention the current questions about the skeptism of one of their presenters.

i think if they dont address this they will lose a lot of their listeners. i, for one, am finding it difficult to listen with credibility these days.

i know they are all friends but surely a skeptical podcast should have critical thinking at its core and no-one should be above questioning.

lxxx
 
Cleon said:
Damn them for not letting internet drama interfere with their podcast!
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I don't think they should discuss it on the show, but to say that it is internet drama is a bit inaccurate.

In a talk she did a few days ago, Rebecca Watson has painted evolutionary psychology as, let's say, inaccurate to be generous. She did this by misrepresenting it.

I think that if the SGU were to address that for about 2 to 5 minutes, then at least they wouldn't lose face in many people's eyes.

They address other people's errors on the show, so why not their own?
 
SGU has a forum. As much a fan of the show as I am, I didn't even know there was a topic here. I like the show the way it is, leave out the drama.
 
s_pepys said:
i think if they dont address this they will lose a lot of their listeners. i, for one, am finding it difficult to listen with credibility these days.
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I hit that point over a year ago. I was thinking of adding them back to my routine when she posted that Slate article making it clear that she was above learning anything from the whole experience. Sorry, we all make mistakes and skeptics should strive to learn from those mistakes.

She is no longer a skeptic, she is an evangelical, fundamentalist feminist of her own making. Not a "feminist skeptic", "skeptical feminist", "skeptic involved in feminist issues", or a "feminist interested in skeptical inquiry". Which is fine, it just isn't interesting to have such a person on a skeptical podcast. I'd rather they politely allowed a psychic to contribute than pretend that she is a skeptic.
 
Cleon said:
Damn them for not letting internet drama interfere with their podcast!
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i dont mean for them to add to the "drama". they talk about brights and other movements within skepticism. this one has been a bit heated to say the least.
jamy ian swiss hinted at it in his recent interview.

i would like to hear, for example, a dissection of their thinking on evo-pschology, especially rebeccas.

surely they can disagree (if they do) without any drama. thats the idea isnt it?

lxxx
 
Bram Kaandorp said:
I don't think they should discuss it on the show, but to say that it is internet drama is a bit inaccurate.

In a talk she did a few days ago, Rebecca Watson has painted evolutionary psychology as, let's say, inaccurate to be generous. She did this by misrepresenting it.

I think that if the SGU were to address that for about 2 to 5 minutes, then at least they wouldn't lose face in many people's eyes.

They address other people's errors on the show, so why not their own?
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PZ Myers doesn't like evolutionary psychology ergo Rebecca Watson doesn't like evolutionary psychology.
 
s_pepys said:
ive put this on the other thread. pz doesnt really address whats wrong with evo
psyc but attacks this other guys motives pretty harshly imo.

lxxx
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I used to read PZ occasionally but sort of tailed off over time. So, I clicked the link above to see what all the kerfuffle was about . . .

My god it is like some sort of old time religion over there. Everyone who even dares to question the grand wizard is banned. Wow.

Critical thinking has left the building!
 
I think that everybody has something they aren't rational about.

That doesn't make you a non-Skeptic on other matters.

That said, I have gotten increasingly tired of hearing her on the podcast to the point where I have missed most of the last few months.

It's not her Skeptical credentials I am complaining of, it is that she isn't very interesting.
 
s_pepys said:
hi all. i have been a keen listener for a few years but recently am saddened by their reluctance to even mention the current questions about the skeptism of one of their presenters.

i think if they dont address this they will lose a lot of their listeners. i, for one, am finding it difficult to listen with credibility these days.

i know they are all friends but surely a skeptical podcast should have critical thinking at its core and no-one should be above questioning.

lxxx
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Have you considered posting this on the SGU Forums instead?
 
BenBurch said:
I think that everybody has something they aren't rational about.

That doesn't make you a non-Skeptic on other matters.

That said, I have gotten increasingly tired of hearing her on the podcast to the point where I have missed most of the last few months.

It's not her Skeptical credentials I am complaining of, it is that she isn't very interesting.
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Then you (and I) can be glad that she isn't as vocal (as in "you don't hear her as much") lately. The others more than make up for it though, so at least it's still interesting.
 
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