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Is Australia screwed?

a_unique_person

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Just about every part of the country, and all the majory capital cities, are experiencing a prolonged drought.

The forecasters can see no end in sight.

http://twm.co.nz/Ausdrghtfire.htm

Sydney is very low on water, Goulburn is down to 8 percent, Melbourne low, Perth low, the Gold Coast was down to very low levels, but not out of the woods yet. Adelaide relies on the Murray river for water, which is getting too saline to drink at times.
 
a_unique_person said:
Just about every part of the country, and all the majory capital cities, are experiencing a prolonged drought.

The forecasters can see no end in sight.

http://twm.co.nz/Ausdrghtfire.htm

Sydney is very low on water, Goulburn is down to 8 percent, Melbourne low, Perth low, the Gold Coast was down to very low levels, but not out of the woods yet. Adelaide relies on the Murray river for water, which is getting too saline to drink at times.
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You have plenty of unoccupied land so can't see why you can't develop "renewable" energy sources from sun towers to wind farms and the like, most of your population are around the crinkly edges so you have access to plenty of sea water. Sea water + “clean” energy = plenty of fresh water.
 
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Darat said:
You have plenty of unoccupied land so can't see why you can't develop "renewable" energy sources from sun towers to wind farms and the like, most of your population are around the crinkly edges so you have access to plenty of sea water. Sea water + “clean” energy = plenty of fresh water.
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You haven't seen the protests against wind farms, have you?
 
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a_unique_person said:
You haven't seen the protests against wind farms, have you?
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I have in the UK, I would have assumed that they could be placed totally out of anyone's way in a country the size of Australia with its low population density?
 
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Darat said:
I have in the UK, I would have assumed that they could be placed totally out of anyone's way in a country the size of Australia with its low population density?
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who are you calling dense Mr Cat for a head.....
 
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Darat said:
I have in the UK, I would have assumed that they could be placed totally out of anyone's way in a country the size of Australia with its low population density?
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Some of its population is quite dense. :p
 
Without anhy comment on the content, you've just got to love the source.

Here are some gems:

The practice of weather modification, like weather prediction, began countless millennia before the rise of Western civilization. Traditional WM methods were utilized in many parts of the world by various Indigenous peoples and continue to be performed today.
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TWM
 
Hmm..
I suppose you COULD pray for rain....
Or, you know, do something sensible like set up windfarms in the outback and purify the water, as per Darat..

I think I know what will yield fresh water first.....
 
Denmark would be happy to ship some of its rain to its new colony....
 
Drooper said:
Without anhy comment on the content, you've just got to love the source.

Here are some gems:



TWM
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I have not even looked at the source, it was just a convenient list of quotes on the 'current' drought. That is, it has been going about ten years now, and is a record even for Australia.

We can, I guess, desalinate water and keep the human population alive, but, much of Australia depends on food exports for income, and a lot of the flora and fauna aren't capable of desalination techniques, last I heard.
 
clarsct said:
Hmm..
I suppose you COULD pray for rain....
Or, you know, do something sensible like set up windfarms in the outback and purify the water, as per Darat..

I think I know what will yield fresh water first.....
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Sydney is talking about water from recycled sewerage. Just floating the idea, so that everyone will be ready to accept it when it becomes necessary.
 
a_unique_person said:
Sydney is talking about water from recycled sewerage. Just floating the idea, so that everyone will be ready to accept it when it becomes necessary.
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NB when discussing recycling sewage for drinking water, it's best to avoid the use of words like "Floating".
 
We have been saving all our Families urine production for the last 2 years but we cannot get my states government to come and take it away for reprocessing. South Australia are interested because it tastes better than thier drinking water.
 
Just out of interest, if the human population started to use desalinated water for their needs rather than taking it from rivers and groundwater, would that alleviate the problem for the fauna and flora who can't work taps? Or is the problem more fundamental than that?
 
richardm said:
NB when discussing recycling sewage for drinking water, it's best to avoid the use of words like "Floating".
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The large river that the population of South Australia drink from starts and flows through a lot of my state....so we all crap in it. They don't seem to mind so maybe the Idea has merit. :D
 
richardm said:
Just out of interest, if the human population started to use desalinated water for their needs rather than taking it from rivers and groundwater, would that alleviate the problem for the fauna and flora who can't work taps? Or is the problem more fundamental than that?
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Unfortunately when most of australia was in its phase of colonial expansion of agriculture it turns out we were recieving long periods of abnormally high rainfall. The early settlers got a false impression of the viability of european agriculture on what is very marginal land. Now the reality of it all is biting us on the arse as we struggle to avoid reality...
 
richardm said:
Just out of interest, if the human population started to use desalinated water for their needs rather than taking it from rivers and groundwater, would that alleviate the problem for the fauna and flora who can't work taps? Or is the problem more fundamental than that?
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The problem is definitely getting more fundamental than that. The Australian native flora and fauna is designed to withstand droughts. (And flooding rains, for that matter). It is when mature eucalyptus are dying that you wonder what is going on.
 
a_u_p, Fool, sorry to hear about your difficulties...

A thought: Y'know, England gets all the rain anybody could want, all year 'round. Since your ancestors were quite possibly convicts who were forced to move against their wills to the stinking desert, why not just demand the right of return to your ancestral lands?
 
BPSCG said:
a_u_p, Fool, sorry to hear about your difficulties...
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oh come on BPSCG....I bet you you wake up at night in laughing fits at the thought of us two drinking a weak solution of our fellow citizens body wastes... ;)

What we lack is the rockies...simple as that. If we had a mid continent mountain range we would have the massive fertile belt on each side of it too...... and quite a few more large rivers.
 
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