Irony, thy name is Gaddafi

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This just in, Gaddafi is a loon!

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"There is no state with a democracy except Libya on the whole planet," he told an audience at New York's Columbia University via live satellite link.

Despite the recent rapprochement between Washington and Tripoli, Mr Gaddafi denounced Western democracy as "fake" and "farcical".

"Countries like the United States, India, China, the Russian Federation, are in bad need of this Jamahiriya system," Col Gaddafi said.
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Wow, thanks for that Mr. Dictator for life!
 
You just noticed now that he's coocoo for cocoapuffs?
 
jj said:
You just noticed now that he's coocoo for cocoapuffs?
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And you've got to think Libyans aren't stupid. Maybe being ruled by a fairly harmless woo is not such a bad thing.

He's a complete nut-job, of course, but have the Libyans really had a worse experience than the Algerians over the last few decades? I don't think so. At least Gaddafi's not a gangster, like Saddam or Sharon. He's just your everyday messiah.
 
At least Gaddafi's not a gangster,

If one ignores a few tiny misunderstandings like the blowing up of a Jumbo Jet in mid-flight over Lockerby (sp?).

like Saddam or Sharon.

Of course, if one reaches the situation when one thinks Sharon is worse than Quadaffi, I suppose one might as well walk with a button saying "Lose all contact with reality now, ask me how."
 
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CapelDodger said:
At least Gaddafi's not a gangster, like Saddam or Sharon.
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Ya, sorry Capel but I must call you on that one as well. If you see Sharon in the same light as Hussein or Gaddafi you must be off your rocker.

Sharon was hardly "a gangster" nor did Sharon's career resemble anything close to the careers of Saddam Hussein or Colonel Gaddafi. In fact Sharon was the only one out of the three who was elected to lead by popular vote. One could hardly compare Sharon with A) a gangster or B) a cruel dictator without revealing some serious nonskeptical baggage.....but you did.
 
One thing about Gafddafi that a lot of people forget, unlike most North African leaders, he supports Israel's right to sovreignty. Also, he employs females as his personal bodyguards, and he has been fighting Al-Qaeda for a long time. Libya is probably the most forward-thinking majority Islam nation around.
 
EvilSmurf said:
One thing about Gafddafi that a lot of people forget, unlike most North African leaders, he supports Israel's right to sovreignty. Also, he employs females as his personal bodyguards, and he has been fighting Al-Qaeda for a long time. Libya is probably the most forward-thinking majority Islam nation around.
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They may have gone forward at a bit of of an angle, but at least they haven't been lurching backwards. It's a kind of new age Islam, but at least it's not didactic. And there's been continuity, often a blessing. Can't see that lasting many more decades, though.

Unlike Sharon. Who's going to pull the plug on the Capo?
 
zenith-nadir said:
Ya, sorry Capel but I must call you on that one as well. If you see Sharon in the same light as Hussein or Gaddafi you must be off your rocker...
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Skeptic said:
like Saddam or Sharon.

Of course, if one reaches the situation when one thinks Sharon is worse than Quadaffi, I suppose one might as well walk with a button saying "Lose all contact with reality now, ask me how."
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Guys, he's just baiting you.
 
You must be right, Mycroft.

It's rather hard to believe that CD really thinks that the man responsible for, inter alia, the blowing up of a Pan Am flight killing hundreds (to say nothing of numerous other acts of terror through the last 30+ years) is a "fairly harmless woo".
 
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Skeptic said:
You must be right, Mycroft.

It's rather hard to believe that CD really thinks that the man responsible for, inter alia, the blowing up of a Pan Am flight killing hundreds (to say nothing of numerous other acts of terror through the last 30+ years) is a "harmless woo".
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"Fairly harmless woo" was the phrase used, and it was in the context of being ruled by, viz from a Libyan perspective. Compare it to being ruled by Saddam, Mugabe or the Algerian military, for instance. A relatively benign environment.

It takes a real effort of will to believe that Libya was involved in Lockerbie. The original theory - initiated by Iranians in response to a downed Iranian airliner, and carried out by Syrian assets (the PFLP-GC) in Europe - is vastly more credible.

Libya's involvement in terrorism back in the day was not great. They were more into assassination of Libyan dissidents in exile. Supplying the IRA was actually a measured riposte, quite subtle, really.
 
Mycroft said:
Guys, he's just baiting you.
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Gangsters are motivated by the package of power, wealth and prestige. Their tools are violence, rewards and personal loyalty - particularly, but not only, the family. Any aristocracy/monarchy is gangsterism writ large. There's an unbroken history of gangsterism from the days our ancestors were hairy all over.

Ideologues are motivated by their ideology (which might be religious). Ideology has a more recent history, some of it benign. Mostly not, of course.

Sharon is/was a gangster, not an ideologue.
 
You just should have labelled the mass murdering thug "mostly harmless" and be done with it, CD.
 
Skeptic said:
You just should have labelled the mass murdering thug "mostly harmless" and be done with it, CD.
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Sharon was mostly harmless to Israelis in a direct, physical sense. His corruptions and cronyism weren't so resented as to require oppressive measures. The real damage he did was to get a majority of Israelis to indentify with his belligerence, and it will only be magnified by him not actually dying.

At least Lenin was mummified. We've drawn a line under Sharon in the local death-pool and paid off. I've got Ratko Mladic in the latest one - a wild card.
 
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