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If you vote Republican you will die ... earlier

The Great Zaganza said:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220609173704.htm

There is an 11% difference in the decrease in mortality from 2001 to 2019 that is correlated with the voting record: counties that vote for Democrats have lowered their mortality rate more than Republican-voting ones.
And the effect is four times as large when you count only Whites.
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Looks pretty science-y to me, so I am voting Democrat and extending my life because that's how it works, right?
 
Brainster said:
Looks pretty science-y to me, so I am voting Democrat and extending my life because that's how it works, right?
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What is the point of writing something that you know isn't "how it works" and isn't said to be "how it works" by anybody, then following it with "that's how it works, right?"?
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say better health care availability since this covers the Obamacare years?
 
Stacyhs said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say better health care availability since this covers the Obamacare years?
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... and the willingness to make use of it.
1/3 of Covid deaths in the US are unvaccinated people after vaccination became widely available.
 
Brainster said:
Looks pretty science-y to me, so I am voting Democrat and extending my life because that's how it works, right?
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Did you even bother reading the article? The point, which seems to have gone over your head, is that in counties which voted Democratic, mortality rates dropped more than in counties that voted Republican:

The team found that mortality rates decreased by 22 percent in Democratic counties but by only 11 percent in Republican counties. The mortality gap rose across top disease areas, including heart disease and cancer, and the mortality gap between white residents in Democratic versus Republican counties increased nearly fourfold during the study period. Results are published in the British Medical Journal.
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The study does NOT suggest that voting Democratic extends your life.

The authors note that the widening gap in death rates may reflect the influence of politics on health policies. One of the inflection points detected in the study corresponds to the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which was passed in 2010. More Democratic states than Republican states adopted Medicaid expansion under the ACA, which expanded health insurance coverage to people on a low income.

The study detects an association between political environment and mortality but does not definitively determine the direction of the association or the specific factors that may explain the link between the two. The authors did not study the effect of flipping political environments -- that is, counties that switched from voting Democratic or Republican to voting for the other party -- on health outcomes, which could be an area of future study. The study period ended in 2019, before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, which may have had an even more profound impact on the mortality gap.

"Our study suggests that the mortality gap is a modern phenomenon, not an inevitability," said Warraich. "At the start of our study, we saw little difference in mortality rates in Democratic and Republican counties. We hope that our findings will open people's eyes and show the real effect that politics and health policy can have on people's lives."
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So perhaps there are real-life consequences associated with voting for a party that actively tries to damage public health resources.
 
"5,786th study proves that stupidity is a transferable quality"

People who are stupid make bad political decisions and bad health decisions.

I cannot fathom what the mystery here is supposed to be.

Yes not getting a life saving vaccine during a global pandemic to "tweak the libs" is gonna take some years off, water is also wet and fire is also hot.

Why are we also shocked when stupid people make stupid decisions?
 
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If the thread title is true, I am voting twice in order to defy the odds in magnificent fashion.
 
Warp12 said:
If the thread title is true, I am voting twice in order to defy the odds in magnificent fashion.
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That's pretty meta, dude. Like, here we are talking about stupid Republican beliefs that harm their consituents and you pop in making a joke about doing something that stupid Republicans believe happens all the time that will actually harm you for trying. Well done, bravo, here's another example of stupid Republican beliefs that will harm the stupid Republicans who fall for them!
 
shemp said:
Did you even bother reading the article? The point, which seems to have gone over your head, is that in counties which voted Democratic, mortality rates dropped more than in counties that voted Republican:
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So I have to convince my county to vote Democrat to extend my lifespan?
 
Lies, damn lies, & Democrat stats!

Brainster said:
So I have to convince my county to vote Democrat to extend my lifespan?
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Okay, Killery, 'scuse me, brainstir, tell us what's the really true truth about it all and everything.
 
You wish that some red/Republican/conservative -- whatever you want to call them -- would just once man up and write something like:

Making health care costs at least in part taxpayer-supported is in my opinion, bad policy. Your health, your life, you get what you pay for. Don't ask me to help you. Does this translate into a reduced life span for people of a certain income level? Sadly, it can. But that's the way life works. They don't drive a new Audi, either

But they never do. Instead this kind of discussion always goes around in circles. :(
 
Stacyhs said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say better health care availability since this covers the Obamacare years?
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I was rather surprised to see that most of the change occurred during the Bush years. The trend continued at a lower rate after 2009. The AHCA didn't seem to make as much difference as I expected.

The year by year graphs are interesting. May be related to the long term trend where R's and D's have flipped places in terms of average education and I think that correlates a bit with mortality.
 
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