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If Putin moves Against Estonia...

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Russia is coming apart at the seams. Putin's desperate. Estonia's border region has a lot of ethnic Russians. What if there's an "incident"?

Would NATO invoke it's article V defense clause? Would Obama risk going to war with Russia over Estonia? If you were Obama, would you risk it?

I don't know what I would do.
 
Would Obama risk going to war with Russia over Estonia?

Would Putin risk going to war with essentially the entire western world over Estonia?
 
Would Putin risk going to war with essentially the entire western world over Estonia?

He's not going to do it, Obama has just about put him into a recession.

I have to give Obama credit on this one. Destroying the ruble and causing an oil price war has worked quite well, now maybe we'll at least see some global temperature rise. lol
 
Would Putin risk going to war with essentially the entire western world over Estonia?

I would have categorically said no before his little adventures in the Crimea and Ukraine. If Putin thinks Obama would cave, and he could rattle world markets badly, he might see more of an upside than a downside. It would be a huge gamble, but desperate people often do desperate things.
 
It would be a huge gamble, but desperate people often do desperate things.


I'm not sure why we ought to regard Putin as 'desperate'. As I understand it, in spite of the current ruble crisis, he still has an over 80% approval rate from the Russian public. Most politicians would love that level of public approval.
 
Russia is coming apart at the seams. Putin's desperate. Estonia's border region has a lot of ethnic Russians. What if there's an "incident"?

Would NATO invoke it's article V defense clause? Would Obama risk going to war with Russia over Estonia? If you were Obama, would you risk it?

I don't know what I would do.


Russia isn't coming apart at the seams, Putin isn't desperate, nobody cares about Estonia and you should really try to get better sources of information.
 
I'm not sure why we ought to regard Putin as 'desperate'. As I understand it, in spite of the current ruble crisis, he still has an over 80% approval rate from the Russian public. Most politicians would love that level of public approval.

It's not the public he needs to worry about, it's his crowd of cronies. The problem with oligarchy is always the other oligarchs.
 
Russia isn't coming apart at the seams, Putin isn't desperate, nobody cares about Estonia and you should really try to get better sources of information.

Russia is in very bad shape.

Who cared about Ukraine, other than Sarah Palin? So what if some Archduke is killed? Kuwait? Never heard of it.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d8bf5266-89cb-11e4-9dbf-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Mfy967kP
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I'm not sure why we ought to regard Putin as 'desperate'. As I understand it, in spite of the current ruble crisis, he still has an over 80% approval rate from the Russian public. Most politicians would love that level of public approval.

Well, normally when people say "most politicians would kill for that level of support" it is meant figuratively. With the Crimea, assassinations of critics etc... Putin doesn't seem to be "most" politicians.
 
LOL. As I hinted at, your sources of information are crap. I advice you to follow the events with what these sources told you in mind. Don't let them get away with it.
 

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