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I Saw A Spectacular Meteor!

mgidm86

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I'm wondering if I should report it, or if it's unusual at all. This was spectacular! Below are some Photoshop images I made to try and replicate how it appeared to me.

I was at my Dad's around 12:35 am, July 31, 2021. He lives in a small town called Copperopolis if you want to look it up. Ya goofy name!

I was gazing at the sky and the meteor appeared out of approximately North by Northwest heading Southeast-ish. It faded out about West by Southwest of my position (on Lake Tulloch to be exact).

What I observed

The meteor was visible for about 4 seconds! I saw the entire visible flight.

The meteor was not a faint and quick blip like in meteor showers. This tail was very bright yellow and opaque. It was fat which made it appear that the meteor was very close, or very large. Very!

If I hold a pencil in front of my face at arms length that is about how fat the tail appeared to me.

About 1.5 seconds into it:
As it flew by with a slightly downward trajectory (it seemed that way) from my left to right, it blew/broke into many smaller pieces. The main rock was still going too.

It reminded me of the Space Shuttle that exploded on re-entry, with the pieces blowing off yet still maintaining the same trajectory as the main ship.

Each meteor fragment had its own bright tail as well and traveled slightly slower than the main rock.

After maybe a second the smaller pieces disappeared, but the main rock kept going. I could see what looked like hot "embers" coming off the rock as it continued. I briefly thought "hope it doesn't hit ground and start a fire!"

About one second after the small rocks disappeared, the main rock also went out. Before it did it looked like the fireball glow surrounding the rock wasn't as round anymore, like a chunk was gone. That's how clear or close it appeared, or SEEMED to appear.

When it was over, a few people that were hanging out down by the lake cheered. WOOOOOOOOOO!!! So did I!!!

I was not buzzed at all by the way.

What it seemed like

It seemed like it was super close because it was huge and it SEEMED like I could see a lot of detail. It reminded me of a fireball being launched like in Game Of Thrones. Not super fast like a normal shooting star I've seen. That was very apparent.

It looked so close, like I was watching a plane on fire crashing from a few miles away. I could see the yellow glow around the meteor as it flew. I could not actually see the rock, but the glow was trasparent at the edges and solid in the middle. It seemed like it was going slow for a meteor.

It looked like what it was - a big rock or object on fire flying through the sky, and it looked very very close.

The trail was so bright and clear, it was like someone drew across the dark sky with a yellow felt pen. It looked like someone close by had launched an illegal firework, except horizontally, especially when it broke apart.

I mean it looked like it was "right there"!

This was the most spectacular thing I have ever seen in the sky, and one of the coolest things I've ever experienced!

I'm thinking about animating this, but for now I made a few images in Photoshop (no photos).

Meteor1.jpg

Breaking up
Meteor2.jpg

Pieces, trailing behind
Meteor3.jpg

The rock on its own again, appearing a bit different shape. Not sure I got enough detail to show that.
Meteor4.jpg


Anyways, should I report this? I looked it up the next day and didn't see it mentioned. I saw one reported from Texas. I also hear there is a meteor shower visible, or soon will be.

I had a GoPro on while I was fishing that night (night fishing off the dock). If I would have fished another 5 minutes I'd have it all on video.

In any case it is something I will never forget!
 
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Cool! You should report it. If you can get some idea of direction from where you were standing, it might help too. All data points which can be used.

Also, it could be a burning out satellite or something.
 
Cool! You should report it. If you can get some idea of direction from where you were standing, it might help too. All data points which can be used.

Also, it could be a burning out satellite or something.


I'm going to get on Google maps and get more precise directions. I can see my Dad's house and easily figure it out.

You mention satellite - when it broke apart, in fact the whole time it flew by, I had the impression it looked more like a crashing...I dunno...something that wasn't a rock. Maybe too many movies (or seeing the shuttle), but the speed, the color...I could see so much of it. It sure SEEMED like I could.

Didn't seem distorted or faded by atmosphere. It seemed like I was watching a plane crash that was "right over that mountain over there", except faster, but not incredibly fast. But I know it's damn tough to tell speed and distance. I was in the mountains so less pollution, lot of stars visible.

I "feel" like it was very close. I turned my head a lot as it flew by too.

I make fishing videos so within a minute of this I made a quick video of me describing what I saw. I wanted it fresh. It's funny watching it, I am very excited in it.
 
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I love fireballs, a real treat to see.

First time I saw one I was 18 with my boyfriend and brother on our way driving to Mardi Gras in New Orleans from LA. We were crossing those miles and miles of TX that you hear about and parallel to us a fireball streaked across the sky. It was supercool and not like the typical meteor streak.

The current meteor shower we are in is supposed to have some good fireballs in it.

But the best, and I'll never forget it, is when we went to AZ to see the Leonids meteor storm that happens every 33 years. The sky lit up with fireball after fireball all night long.

It's not exactly 33 years and the last on went on several years in a row, missing one year in between. We went south for those 3 years: AZ, NM, and NV. I took my son. We camped in the high desert outside of Phoenix. That one had the most fireballs. In NM we went to Roswell and Carlsbad Caverns. And on the NV trip we went to Death Valley and Area 51. At Death Valley we found our way to the 'Racetrack: a dry lakebed with the mysterious moving stones.

On the AZ trip we stopped by the Grand Canyon and Meteor Crater.

I have to say I got the most one could get out of that Leonids storm.


Maybe Travis will show up in this thread. A meteor/fireball went right over his little town. There was a sonic boom and it hit ground a little north of him.
 
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NASA: The Truth about the 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm
The Leonid meteor shower happens every year in mid-November. That's when our planet has a close encounter with Comet Tempel-Tuttle's orbit -- a region of space littered with streams of comet dust. Usually we pass through the rarefied gaps between streams and sky watchers see no more than 10 or 15 Leonids per hour. But sometimes (like last year) Earth plows through a debris stream more or less head-on and a full-fledged meteor storm erupts.
In 2001, the year we went to AZ:
Listening to Leonids -- (Science@NASA) On Nov. 18, 2001, millions of sky watchers saw a dazzling storm of Leonid meteors. Some observers heard them too!
There are lots of articles on the Leonids storm.

The important question is, when will the Earth plow through the stream again?

Leonids
Next period of activity: November 6th, 2021 to November 30th, 2021
The Leonids are best known for producing meteor storms in the years of 1833, 1866, 1966, 1999, and 2001. These outbursts of meteor activity are best seen when the parent object, comet 55P/Tempel-Tuttle, is near perihelion (closest approach to the sun). Yet it is not the fresh material we see from the comet, but rather debris from earlier returns that also happen to be most dense at the same time. Unfortunately it appears that the earth will not encounter any dense clouds of debris until 2099. Therefore when the comet returns in 2031 and 2064, there will be no meteor storms, but perhaps several good displays of Leonid activity when rates are in excess of 100 per hour. The best we can hope for now until the year 2030 is peaks of around 15 shower members per hour and perhaps an occasional weak outburst when the earth passes near a debris trail. The Leonids are often bright meteors with a high percentage of persistent trains.

That is from this site:American Meteor Society: METEOR SHOWER CALENDAR 2021-2022
alpha Capricornids
Next period of activity: July 3rd, 2021 to August 15th, 2021
The Alpha Capricornids are active from July 3 through August 15 with a "plateau-like" maximum centered on July 30. This shower is not very strong and rarely produces in excess of five shower members per hour. What is notable about this shower is the number of bright fireballs produced during its activity period. This shower is seen equally well on either side of the equator.

And of course the Perseids will peak in less than 2 weeks.
Perseids
Next period of activity: July 17th, 2021 to August 26th, 2021
The Perseids are the most popular meteor shower as they peak on warm August nights as seen from the northern hemisphere. The Perseids are active from July 17 to August 24. They reach a strong maximum on August 12 or 13, depending on the year. Normal rates seen from rural locations range from 50-75 shower members per hour at maximum.The Perseids are particles released from comet 109P/Swift-Tuttle during its numerous returns to the inner solar system. They are called Perseids since the radiant (the area of the sky where the meteors seem to originate) is located near the prominent constellation of Perseus the hero when at maximum activity.
Many years in a row I took my son to different campgrounds around here (Seattle) to watch the Perseids. And sometimes I just sit in my backyard in a lounge chair and see what might still be visible despite over-powering city lights.

If anyone has a chance in 2030 to see the Leonids, don't miss it!!!
 
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I love fireballs, a real treat to see.

First time I saw one I was 18 with my boyfriend and brother on our way driving to Mardi Gras in New Orleans from LA. We were crossing those miles and miles of TX that you hear about and parallel to us a fireball streaked across the sky. It was supercool and not like the typical meteor streak.

The current meteor shower we are in is supposed to have some good fireballs in it.

But the best and I'll never forget it is when we went to AZ to see the Leonid's meteor storm that happens every 33 years. The sky lit up with fireball after fireball all night long.

It not exactly 33 years and the last on went on several years in a row, missing one year in between and we went south for those 3 years: AZ, NM, and NV. I took my son. We camped in the high desert outside of Phoenix. That one had the most fireballs. In NM we went to Roswell and Carlsbad Caverns. And on the NV trip we went to Death Valley and Area 51. At Death Valley we found our way to the 'Racetrack: a dry lakebed with the mysterious moving stones.

On the AZ trip we stopped by the Grand Canyon and Meteor Crater.

I have to say I got the most one could get out of that Leonid's storm.


Maybe Travis will show up in this thread. A meteor/fireball went right over his little town. There was a sonic boom and it hit ground a little north of him.


Wow! Did those resemble what I described? Sounds like it. Sounds great!

If memory serves, Travis is sort of near my Dad, same county possibly, or a nearby one.

I ran back outside after making my short vid, wondering if there'd be a boom. I didn't hear it but I could have easily missed one. I was inside and out a lot and my Dad's house is ultra quiet with windows shut. Not sure if it would mask a sonic boom though :)

I'll see if I can find video of these maybe and see what they look like.
 
Cool! You should report it. If you can get some idea of direction from where you were standing, it might help too. All data points which can be used.

Also, it could be a burning out satellite or something.
I'm pretty sure it was a fireball given the current meteor shower we are in has a couple every year.

And space debris falling usually means a few news stories. But they do look very much the same when they break up as they fall.
 
Wow! Did those resemble what I described? Sounds like it. Sounds great!

If memory serves, Travis is sort of near my Dad, same county possibly, or a nearby one.

I ran back outside after making my short vid, wondering if there'd be a boom. I didn't hear it but I could have easily missed one. I was inside and out a lot and my Dad's house is ultra quiet with windows shut. Not sure if it would mask a sonic boom though :)

I'll see if I can find video of these maybe and see what they look like.

Absolutely. One difference is with all those Leonids fireballs, they often left a trail of green smoke that you could sometimes see after the fireball disappeared.
 
JPL/NASA Fireball and Bolide Data
The following chart shows reported fireball events for which geographic location data are provided. Each event's calculated total impact energy is indicated by its relative size and by a color. Hover over an event to see its details. In 2019 it was determined that the Geostationary Lightning Mapper (GLM) instruments on GOES weather satellites can detect fireballs and bolides. The GLM Bolides website provides the data for those detections.

And from the AMS: Report a Fireball: it's fun and easy!
You saw something bright and fast? Like a huge shooting star? Report it: it may be a fireball.


There are some dos and don'ts and you can file a report using their online form.
 
Thank you, SG!

I'm not sure if there was any smoke, I guess not. I hope I get the color correct, I'm a bit colorblind. I'd say yellow with a hint of orange, possibly. I dunno, it looked like frickin fire! :)


See rule 12a of the MA: “You will not bombard the forum with rocks from outer space.”


:D

To people living 5,000 years ago...man that must have scared the crap out of people. A religion is born.
 
Thank you, SG!

I'm not sure if there was any smoke, I guess not. I hope I get the color correct, I'm a bit colorblind. I'd say yellow with a hint of orange, possibly. I dunno, it looked like frickin fire! :) ....
You are welcome. Fireballs are red/orange/yellow. So you are describing one. The one we saw in TX was red/orange/yellow. It was only the Leonids that had the green smoke.


Not the best web page setup but the important information is there.
Colors of meteors The color of many Leonids is caused by light emitted from metal atoms from the meteoroid (blue, green, and yellow) and light emitted by atoms and molecules of the air (red). The metal atoms emit light much like in our sodium discharge lamps: sodium (Na) atoms give an orange-yellow light, iron (Fe) atoms a yellow light, magnesium (Mg) a blue-green light, ionized calcium (Ca+) atoms may add a violet hue, while molecules of atmospheric nitrogen (N2) and oxygen atoms (O) give a red light. The meteor color depends on whether the metal atom emissions or the air plasma emissions dominate.
 
He lives in a small town called Copperopolis if you want to look it up. Ya goofy name!

That is the name that Swansea, Wales, is known as. They produced a lot of copper back in the day, unsurprisingly. Kind of in the same way that Manchester, England, was known as Cottonopolis. Not that cotton grows in Manchester's dodgy climate. They imported it from mostly the U.S. And turned it into various products in the mills that essentially were the birth of the industrial revolution.
Sod all to do with meteors, but there you go!
 
That sounds more spectacular than the one I saw 6 months ago which fell in Gloucestershire. It seemed really no distance away at all but in reality although it was coming almost directly toward me it still landed over 60 miles away.

When my wife told her old school friends about what I'd seen one admitted the embargoed news that a chunk had landed in her mother's garden and some very excited folk from the Natural History Museum were there collecting every little bit they could find. Small world.
 
That is the name that Swansea, Wales, is known as. They produced a lot of copper back in the day, unsurprisingly. Kind of in the same way that Manchester, England, was known as Cottonopolis. Not that cotton grows in Manchester's dodgy climate. They imported it from mostly the U.S. And turned it into various products in the mills that essentially were the birth of the industrial revolution.
Sod all to do with meteors, but there you go!


I always figured a metropolis was like a big city. Maybe it was back in the day haha. There's barely anything there.

Thanks for all the comments everyone!
 
A few months ago I saw one as I was turning into my landlord's driveway. My first thought was that a neighbor was shooting fireworks or something but then I realized that it was coming from above. The angle and direction were probably about the same as the one described in the OP. It turned green, however, right about the time it broke into a few pieces and fizzled out.

It was in the evening but not quite dark yet and I saw it against an overcast sky. It definitely appeared to be beneath the clouds.

I also saw a big green fireball when I was a kid. I remember trying to draw it for for my family. It appeared to be about the size of a full moon, I remember emphasizing that, and it disappeared behind a hill about a half a mile away - though I had no idea how close it really was. It appeared to come down at a much steeper angle.

These, of course, were much more spectacular than the typical high altitude shooting star.
 
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