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I ching is advanced knowledge

Kilik

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It contains the knowledge of light, colors, DNA, and complex astronomical knowledge

http://www.jwmt.org/v1n4/readlight.html

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/IChing_and_dna.htm

http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/COHERENCEoctaves.htm

http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/COLORS.html


Precise Astronomy-
http://www.fengshuigate.com/qimancy.html
http://www.bioching.com/iching/

"The McKennas demonstrated this by overlaying the 384 lines of the 64 hexagrams (6 x 64 = 384) on the 13 month lunar calendar (13 X 29.53 days = 383.89 days). They then used these basic units to develop a temporal lock with the solar/sunspot cycle, the Zodiacal Ages, and the length of the Great Year of precessional motion. With the same increment, 64, they found it was possible to assemble a 26 step model of space/time from the size/age of the universe down to Planck's Constant. In this view, the I Ching is a fractal model of all that is, was, or will be. It is also hologramic, in that the piece, the I Ching, contains the information of the whole, the evolving universe."
http://www.jwmt.org/v1n4/readlight.html

ANcient Egyptians, and other cultures also retained the knowledge of precession cycles

I ching and Kaballah
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/LoPan.html
http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm

All is vibration. Kabbalah and I ching are connected. Divination oracles, concerned with a path back to oneness in the universe literally. The founder of calculus, and binary mathematics studied the I ching. It is a real system of Qi.
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/scientists.html
http://www.gwizdala.art.pl/a3/rgb/hexagramms.php
 
Kilik said:
Precise Astronomy-
http://www.fengshuigate.com/qimancy.html
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Welcome to the forum, Kilik. That is quite a comprehensive post which would probably preclude a good discussion. So let's just start with the single url I've quoted above and see where we go.

This url is about feng shui. Which is not astronomy. Please clarify if you want to discuss feng shui or astronomy.
 
You posted far more links than can be reasonably discussed in a single thread. I am willing to discuss the notion that color is related to the I-ching.

the colors of Darkness EARTH are cyan-blue-violet and the Light HEAVEN are yellow-orange-red, and the Law of polarities and reciprocity is clearly used when we use the colors of the 3 octaves in the voice as a Trigram and the 6 octaves that will be seen as the harmonics in the FFT as the 6 lines of the Hexagram.Â_ When we absorb one color we reflect the complementary color, that is the reason the octaves in the BioSonic program portray the colors in a reflection color of the trigram of Earth or of the conciouss bodyÂ_ belonging to the Trigram of the Earth that is Yin is reflecting the colors of Heaven, red-orange-yellow, and the Trigram of the Heaven that is Yang is reflecting the colors of Earth, cyan-blue-violet.Â_ The meaning of the octaves in the trigram and how it relates to the octaves of the voice is a continuation of the research done on the I-Ching and it is portrayed in the published book by Samuel Weiser, I-Ching and Transpersonal Psychology by the same author as the BioSonic program.
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Ordinarily, when people make unusual claims on a skeptic board, the first response is "do you have any evidence to support your claim." I can't ask that question here because the posted claim is so filled with made words and made-up definitions that it does not make sense.

So instead, let me ask this: so what?
Does all this stuff have any purpose?
Do these theories make predictions about how the world works?
Is there any tangible, measurable benefit to believing in this stuff?
 
Kilik said:
Both. THe connection, and how feng shui uses astronomy.
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If we're going to talk about this one link for now, it has a minor discussion of astronomy (actually about an ancient tool that sounds like a planisphere), but doesn't seem to be related to the concept of Qi. So how does feng shui use astronomy, and what does that matter anyway? What's your point of posting this link?
 
Kilik said:
Both. THe connection, and how feng shui uses astronomy.
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Shouldn't we establish that at least one of them actually works on its own before we talk about how they might interact? Or at least establish how they're supposed to work before we start trying to make assumptions about how they're connected?

It seems like a good idea to start with a firm foundation before we start building...
 
With apologizes to Ladewig, it looks like the other responses deal with Feng Shui so, in the spirit of trying to limit this to something we can all get our heads around, I request that we all focus on astronomy and Feng Shui. We can open the question of color in another thread, but not right now, I hope. We do not want to overwhelm Kilik, since he is a new forum member.

Kilik, I agree with delphi_ote:

Shouldn't we establish that at least one of them actually works on its own before we talk about how they might interact?
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Now, all of us here (well, with some exceptions which can be ignored for the sake of this thread :) ) accept astronomy as a good, practiciing scientific discipline. That leaves Feng Shui. Would you be amenable to discussing this discipline (art? science?, practice? I am not sure of the right word.) in an effort to establish its validity before trying to link it to other areas of human endeavor?

Thanks.
 
Well, anyways yeah, but my knowledge of feng shui is fairly limited, but it must be connected to astronomy because it deals with space and nature.
 
Kilik said:
Well, anyways yeah, but my knowledge of feng shui is fairly limited, but it must be connected to astronomy because it deals with space and nature.
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Kilik, one of the problems of the web is that it allows a very limited form of communication...namely, words. Well, plus a few smilies, but they can confuse as well as elucidate. So when you reply, "Well, anyways yeah" I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to convey.

You apparently see a connection between feng shui and astronomy because it [meaning, I presume, feng shui] deals with space and nature. Actually, ALL of science deals with nature. That is its domain of inquiry by definition. So, by your logic, all of the sciences are connected to feng shui.

But back to the larger picture, if your knowledge of feng shui is "fairly limited" that is no problem, My knowledge of it is far less than yours, I am sure. So, should we pursue this topic while recognizing our limitations or should we shift our focus to another area of interest? If the latter, please suggest where we should go.
 
Well, just to home in on one part of the post:

Kilik said:

All is vibration. Kabbalah and I ching are connected. Divination oracles, concerned with a path back to oneness in the universe literally. The founder of calculus, and binary mathematics studied the I ching. It is a real system of Qi.
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/scientists.html
http://www.gwizdala.art.pl/a3/rgb/hexagramms.php
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1. What do people mean by "All is vibration"? The suggestion seems to be that vibration is a thing. If so, this must be a novel, stipulative definition of "vibration", and one that remains undefined, since in normal usage, vibration is not a thing, but something that happens to things. Something vibrates; but there isn't some thing that is vibration. So I simply don't know what people are talking about when they say "All is vibration".

2. Depending on who you believe, the founder of calculus was either Newton or Leibniz. I'd be surprised if either had even heard of I Ching, let alone studied it. It's hard to see how they would have come across it. And even if they had, so what? It might turn out that the inventor of the vacuum cleaner studied botany. It doesn't follow from this either that botanical insights informed the invention of the vacuum cleaner, or that the inventor's study of botany was in some way a necessary condition of the genesis of the vacuum cleaner.

3. I don't have the foggiest idea what "It is a real system of Qi" means.

Irish Murdoch
 
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/pyramid.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald14bw.html

COmplicated subject to fully understand. Everything appears as cause and effect and seeks its own kind, and it's own level and rate

The Bagua, Taiji (Yin/Yang), 5 phases of THoth
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http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/eghier.html
 
The style of posting you are adopting implies that you don't really understand the things which you are quoting.

It also implies that you do not care about the topics, and just want to cause trouble.

Don't be surprised if people choose to ignore you. However, if that does happen, it does not give you justification to claim that the "sceptics couldn't explain it". We have invited discussion. You have, so far, declined.
 
I'm thinking of what to say, and what replies should go in what thread, or be their own thread
 
Thinking is good. Scattering links willy-nilly is not thinking. I could write a computer program to do that.

Can I suggest you refrain from posting more links until your thinking is complete?
 
TheBoyPaj said:
The style of posting you are adopting implies that you don't really understand the things which you are quoting.

It also implies that you do not care about the topics, and just want to cause trouble.
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Again we have a Paj-Nail-Head scenario.

Couldn't agree more.
 
How can we have been so blind?

Kilik said:
Both. THe connection, and how feng shui uses astronomy.
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Kilik, you're really onto something here!

After considerable labor (as you can see from the time stamp), I've been able to simplify a passage quoted above. Here it is:

"The coloroids of DARTH are the LEAVEN and tangerine, and the Lolarities is clearly colors of the octaves in the Trigram and the harmonics in the FfFfT! of the Hexagram Ÿ. When we adsorb one color, that is, the reason[able] octaves in the colors is a reflection of the trigram of the conciouss bodhi Ÿ belonging to the Yin iphthfft! Reflecting the colors of mauve-brown-puce, and Heaven that is Yang reflecting the smell of violets. The meaning of the voice in your head is a continuation of the research done on the I-published book by Samuel Weiser, the same author as the BioSonic cream cheese between the ears."

I trust that makes everything clear. Don't you appreciate the fiendish simplicity of it all? Hello?
 
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