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Human responses will not affect global climate change

jay gw said:
Two new studies conclude that even if humankind takes dramatic action now to curb global warming, the world will continue to heat up and sea levels will rise for centuries. The reports, in Science magazine, underscore the difficulties in dealing with a worldwide environmental issue.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4539936
Hmm, why is that? That sounds like human activity does not influence the weather, at least not as much as other factors. Is that the case?
 
why is that? That sounds like human activity does not influence the weather, at least not as much as other factors. Is that the case?

Yes. According to these studies, even if all cars stopped and factories shut down, the temperatures are going to continue going upwards.

It's a kind of cycle that operates on its own. Human beings have contributed to starting it, but it seems to be moving by itself.

Just because human activity helped start climate changes does not mean stopping activity will reverse anything.

Still, ending pollution is a goal no matter what the climate does. Pollution is bad on many levels.
 
jay gw said:
Yes. According to these studies, even if all cars stopped and factories shut down, the temperatures are going to continue going upwards.

It's a kind of cycle that operates on its own. Human beings have contributed to starting it, but it seems to be moving by itself.

Just because human activity helped start climate changes does not mean stopping activity will reverse anything.

Still, ending pollution is a goal no matter what the climate does. Pollution is bad on many levels.
How do you know we started it?
 
Re: Re: Human responses will not affect global climate change

Donks said:
Hmm, why is that? That sounds like human activity does not influence the weather, at least not as much as other factors. Is that the case?

It's because of the large thermal inertia of the climate system due to the presence of oceans. So it takes many years for the system to reach its equilibrium temperature in response to the extra heat energy from greenhouse gases. Just like it takes a few minutes for a pan of water to heat up on a gas ring.

This actually isn't a new result and has been known for some time. It says nothing about whether humans are responsible.
 
Re: Re: Re: Human responses will not affect global climate change

Brian the Snail said:
It's because of the large thermal inertia of the climate system due to the presence of oceans. So it takes many years for the system to reach its equilibrium temperature in response to the extra heat energy from greenhouse gases. Just like it takes a few minutes for a pan of water to heat up on a gas ring.

This actually isn't a new result and has been known for some time. It says nothing about whether humans are responsible.
Cool, thanks.
 
It also doesn't stop humans from taking action to control the heat rise. There are plenty of things that can be done, just that some are not politically/economically/technologically possible right now.

As an extreme example, we can vastly cut down on the solar energy contributing to heat in the atmosphere with giant space mirrors.

I'm optimistic that, while climate change will probably cause a lot of suffering, humanity will survive and human ingenuity will be the reason we survive.
 
Drooper said:
The best course of action then is to do nothing.

No benefit, no cost.

I'm sorry, how does this follow? If that statement is in regards to mine, then I would disagree. My point of view would be that the best course of action is to act in a way that promotes scientific and technological progress in order to increase the power of humanity to change it's situation for the better.
 

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