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How can Dawkins redeem himself?

RemieV

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Now that we've talked the elevator issue to death, I'm curious about the opinions of those who are angry with Richard Dawkins. What can he do to "redeem himself", in your mind, if anything?
 
I don't know much about this incident but aren't people just allowed to be people?
 
Pardon?

Gosh I don't keep up with the gossip.
Is it Dawkins now who's won the skeptic wrath lottery?

He's done something horrid, maybe.
Since I have done horrid things, I'm not in a position to hold any grudge against him.

I'll let the righteous would be god-fearing if they believed in a god do that.

:wackysad:
 
"Don't be a dick." --Phil Plaitt

In this case, that statement is appropriate for both Dawkins AND Watson.
 
He could write some really good books on genes and evolution, and maybe atheism, and teach people all over the world about those same subjects.



Oh.
 
RemieV said:
Now that we've talked the elevator issue to death, I'm curious about the opinions of those who are angry with Richard Dawkins. What can he do to "redeem himself", in your mind, if anything?
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Nothing, he's a socially tone deaf, arrogant individual, he proved this when he abruptly pulled the plug on 20,000 users of the RDF*, this just drives the point home.

*Richard Dawkins Foundation.
 
MikeSun5 said:
"Don't be a dick." --Phil Plaitt

In this case, that statement is appropriate for both Dawkins AND Watson.
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This I understand. But do you mean that he should just ignore everything and in future think harder before posting, or should be apologize?
 
One problem I see. An apology that is given because of blackmail, isn't an apology at all.

I say, just leave it alone. We all know skeptics that think in non skeptic ways about certain things. Saying "we will not buy your books, or listen to you talk, or stop bad mouthing you until you give an apology.." is so common now in the media. Like, someone says something bad about "gays" oncamera...he gets a "pass" because he does an apology which is so insincere it's silly. Or calls Obama a "dick", or whatever...

An apology should only come after time and reflection and may never come. But it must be freely given.
 
RemieV said:
Now that we've talked the elevator issue to death, I'm curious about the opinions of those who are angry with Richard Dawkins. What can he do to "redeem himself", in your mind, if anything?
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Debasing one's self to earn the forgiveness of a person determined to take offense is a waste of time.
 
Does anyone need to redeem oneself from a problem that has a basis only in the eye of the beholder and not in fact?

I say this with all seriousness.
 
I would be much more impressed if RW would be the more enlightened woman, extend the olive branch, suggest that perhaps she did protest a wee bit too much, and lets talk about this like normal human beings.

The worst thing Dawkins did in my opinion was post a somewhat flippant and not entirely well-thought out post on an online forum.

If we all had to offer public apologies everytime one of us made the same grievous error, the internet would just have cute kitten pictures and porn.
 
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