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Health Insurance Reform: Predictions

thaiboxerken

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Place your predictions here. We can revisit these posts in 2015 to see if they come true.
 
Between now and 2015 health insurance premiums will double, and less than 90% of Americans will have health insurance.
 
China will attempt to reposess the United States in a vain attempt to stave off their own collapse.

By this time next year, the only TV talking head still talking about the optomistic CBO predictions will be Jay Leno. :p
 
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THE DARK ELDER GOD CTHULHU WILL RISE TO DEVOUR US!!!! FOR IT IS WRITTEN IN THE NECRONOMICON THAT WHEN HEALTH CARE REFORM IS PASSED THE DARK GODS FROM BEYOND THE STARS WILL AWAKE FROM THEIR SLUMBER!

Tea will be outlawed!!! Even the letter "t" will be against the law. It will be replaced by "Crugleegle" which is written as "|->".

Insurance will be so hard to get that only the 5 healthiest people on Earth will be able to qualify for it, and it will cost them eleventy billion dollars a year with a coplay of 3.5 trillion dollars.

It is the end people...madness...MADNESS!


OR...perhaps the country as we know it doesn't end.
 
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Sounds about right. Unless they strengthen the mandate.

In which case, the price controls will force private insurance out of business. resulting in single payer and a deficit of brobdignagian proportions (compared to todays "mere" trillions).
 
It will be radically changed before any significant provisions go into effect.
 
In which case, the price controls will force private insurance out of business. resulting in single payer and a deficit of brobdignagian proportions (compared to todays "mere" trillions).


Which price controls are you referring to?
 
It will be hated and reviled for a little while, then, like Medicare and Social Security, it will become a part of the fabric of America that no politician will dare oppose with impunity. There will be anti-tax people who will scream each time it is augmented to cover more things, but they will be drowned out by the voices of citizens who have grown to appreciate that the health of citizens is part of our infrastructure. It won't go away once people have gotten used to it.
 
It will be hated and reviled for a little while, then, like Medicare and Social Security, it will become a part of the fabric of America that no politician will dare oppose with impunity. There will be anti-tax people who will scream each time it is augmented to cover more things, but they will be drowned out by the voices of citizens who have grown to appreciate that the health of citizens is part of our infrastructure. It won't go away once people have gotten used to it.

Addicts never know when to quit.
 
The "strengthened mandate" you refer to that will bring premiums down from double todays cost.

How would that not be a price control?


Because it's not? A "strengthened mandate" would mean more healthy people into the risk pool. A healthier risk pool means lower premiums, all other things being equal. It won't cut premiums in half, but I never said it would.

What do you think "strengthened mandate" means?
 
Addicts never know when to quit.

And yet, for all our addiction, the US remains a major economic power. Almost every major economic power in the world has some form of government health care for its citizens. Maybe it's not an addictive drug like heroin. Maybe it's an addictive drug like food.
 
Between now and 2015 health insurance premiums will double, and less than 90% of Americans will have health insurance.

Interesting. What do you think the case would be without this healthcare reform legislation?

In other words, even if you're right, things will be the same as they would be without this legislation (in terms of the two items you mention), except that we'd also have substantial health insurance reforms in place (the pre-existing conditions, the annual caps, the rescission, and so on).

Even if that's the case, I think it will have been worth it.

But I think a great many of the currently uninsured will have insurance of one sort or another.
 
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It will be hated and reviled for a little while, then, like Medicare and Social Security, it will become a part of the fabric of America that no politician will dare oppose with impunity.

I think you're exactly right.
 
IF America still exists you mean! This will have ripple out like a large stone tossed into a small pond forcing many to leave the country or whole states to secede to protect their rights and be safe doing so! This may very well be the end of America!


... What do you mean I didn't go through a time warp and we aren't discussing the Re-election of Bush?


ETA: Sorry, I'm just LMAO at the right wingers who are acting as if this is the end of all things.
 
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