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Hawking possible assault victim

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The Daily Mirror reported on Monday that Hawking’s three children feared he might be the victim of someone suffering from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, a disease where sufferers harm others to draw attention to themselves.
 
Holy cow, that's bizarre.

If even a scintilla of this is true, then this 10 times more important than the whole Jacko-pedo trial/circus going on right now.

Hopefully it's all just a big misunderstanding.
"I'm going inside; can you wheel in Stephen in a few minutes?"
"(not paying attention on other side of hedge) Um, OK"
 
It's interesting that this comes out on the very day that the credibility of the guy who invented the diagmosis of "Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy" (the fast-becoming-infamous Professor Sir Roy Meadow) hit another new low.

Some people are even questioning whether this condition exists at all, given Prof. Meadow's new status as paediatric pariah. I suspect that in the strict definition the syndrome does exist. That is, a carer who has a pathological need to feel important, and who therefore harms his or her charge in order to take part in and enjoy the subsequent fuss. Beverley Allitt was probably the classic.

However, I also wonder about its frequency. Vets have been alerted to the possibility that this might happen, and while the odd case has emerged, it really seems rare. And yet you'd think that harming an animal might be more likely than harming a child or a disabled adult, if attention-seeking was the reason.

However, whatever is or is not happening to Prof. Hawking, I seriously doubt that it is MbP. Who is the person who is revelling in all the fuss and attention? Why this need to dredge up popular labels for things, when the obvious interpretation is far more likely. That is, assuming this isn't just accidental, the perpetrator is doing it for some malicious, but sane, motive.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
It's interesting that this comes out on the very day that the credibility of the guy who invented the diagmosis of "Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy" (the fast-becoming-infamous Professor Sir Roy Meadow) hit another new low.

Some people are even questioning whether this condition exists at all, given Prof. Meadow's new status as paediatric pariah.

Rolfe.
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Hi Rolfe,
Do you have a link to the story about Meadow?
Thanks
TS
 
TruthSeeker said:
Do you have a link to the story about Meadow?
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The most recent news item is here: Cot death expert to face enquiry. This one is being discussed in a couple of other threads at the moment.

The specific point about Munchausen's by Proxy was taken from this one here: Profile: Sir Roy Meadow, which is just over a month old.
In the House of Lords recently, Earl Howe, the Opposition spokesman on health, accused the professor of inventing a 'theory without science' and refusing to produce any real evidence to prove that Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy actually exists.
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Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Some people are even questioning whether this condition exists at all, given Prof. Meadow's new status as paediatric pariah. I suspect that in the strict definition the syndrome does exist. That is, a carer who has a pathological need to feel important, and who therefore harms his or her charge in order to take part in and enjoy the subsequent fuss. Beverley Allitt was probably the classic.

However, I also wonder about its frequency. Vets have been alerted to the possibility that this might happen, and while the odd case has emerged, it really seems rare. And yet you'd think that harming an animal might be more likely than harming a child or a disabled adult, if attention-seeking was the reason.
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I assume MBP is rare, but still think it exists. I've read some bizarre stories on pet sites from anti-conventional vet kooks that sound very suspicious. These pets are constantly having health problems - all, of course, related to the vet, vaccinations, food, etc.
 
Rolfe said:
It's interesting that this comes out on the very day that the credibility of the guy who invented the diagmosis of "Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy" (the fast-becoming-infamous Professor Sir Roy Meadow) hit another new low.
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It hardly matters whether "Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy" really exists as a separate disorder, or whether like Multiple Personality Disorder it is just another manifestation of Borderline Personality Disorder.

People do it. Especially nurses.
 
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