Goddamn America

[varwoche]

Palin mentioned Rev. Wright the other day, reminding me that I had meant to post about the time-honored tradition of goddamning America.

AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals

If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms

The lord will by no means leave the guilty unpunished ... a slipping, sliding country like the USA

My personal favorite though is jazzman Les McCann (lyrics kick in at 2:10):

 

[noch1Narr]

Damn you, Varwoche, for bringing up such irrelevant (past!) incidents by god-fearing "Merikans"! Can't you concentrate on the future and let "sleeping dogs(!) lie"...?

 

[Tricky]

Damn you, Varwoche, for bringing up such irrelevant (past!) incidents by god-fearing "Merikans"! Can't you concentrate on the future and let "sleeping dogs(!) lie"...?

If only those dogs did as much sleeping as they do lying.

 

[corplinx]

Apparently, if you say it in a longer sentence and blame it on homos, its different to the evangelicals.

 

[dirtywick]

It was Obama's relationship with Rev. Wright that made the story stand out.

 

[mhaze]

It was Obama's relationship with Rev. Wright that made the story stand out.

OBAMA:Well, my pastor is certainly someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for.

Wright.

 

[Tricky]

OBAMA:Well, my pastor is certainly someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for.

I had an enormous amount of respect for William F. Buckley. I read his columns regularly. I rarely agreed with them. It was inspiring, though, to see how he could use words.

 

[Whiplash]

If the implication is that the Republicans don't mind such speech when it comes from there side, I take strong exception to that. I personally, as well as many people I know and have heard speak, think that Pat Robertson/Jerrfy Fallwell and their ilk are despicable and wish that these people were not in our party either.

I have zero patience for people on either side with these kinds of messages. And I'm sick to death of this ongoing strawman argument that all the people in the Republican party are homophobes and bigots and racists. And the left has the audacity to accuse us of mindless attacks when we don't have the facts on our side? Puh-lease.

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right. It could equally be argued that you guys who go apoplectic over such statements from right wing pastors all want to just sweep it all under the rug now that one of your guys is caught up with someone who says the same kinds of crap. Hypocrisy. Bigtime. Be fair and just, and label them all for what they are. Please, I beg you guys to show some intellectual honesty on this.

 

[noch1Narr]

Tricky- your comment on the late WFBuckley is spot-on! I heard him when he gave the commencement address at a private school in AZ back in '70; that man had charisma, exceptional command of the English language, and a piercing sense of humor, unlike me and the usual apologists for the GOP. I rarely agreed with him/his pronouncements, but it was sheer delight to read what he wrote, even more so to listen to that sonorous voice with a slight British accent. I now sorely miss 2 prominent residents of the state of Connecticut. M.

 

[XBoxWarrior]

And I'm sick to death of this ongoing strawman argument that all the people in the Republican party are homophobes and bigots and racists.

I'm gonna argue that, if not all, many are....as evidenced in the McCain/Palin speech tapes lately...

You wanna somma linkys?

Just ask?

p.s. If you ask, I will assume that your google is broken.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

If the implication is that the Republicans don't mind such speech when it comes from there side, I take strong exception to that. I personally, as well as many people I know and have heard speak, think that Pat Robertson/Jerrfy Fallwell and their ilk are despicable and wish that these people were not in our party either.

I have zero patience for people on either side with these kinds of messages. And I'm sick to death of this ongoing strawman argument that all the people in the Republican party are homophobes and bigots and racists. And the left has the audacity to accuse us of mindless attacks when we don't have the facts on our side? Puh-lease.

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right. It could equally be argued that you guys who go apoplectic over such statements from right wing pastors all want to just sweep it all under the rug now that one of your guys is caught up with someone who says the same kinds of crap. Hypocrisy. Bigtime. Be fair and just, and label them all for what they are. Please, I beg you guys to show some intellectual honesty on this.

Or it could just be pointing out in a sorta 'don't throw rocks in glass houses' way. It's not like the statements that they make matter since both sides have either repudiated them or no longer say them.

 

[dirtywick]

I'm gonna argue that, if not all, many are....as evidenced in the McCain/Palin speech tapes lately...

You wanna somma linkys?

Just ask?

p.s. If you ask, I will assume that your google is broken.

haha good luck with all that.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Palin mentioned Rev. Wright the other day, reminding me that I had meant to post about the time-honored tradition of goddamning America.

My personal favorite though is jazzman Les McCann (lyrics kick in at 2:10):

Why do you hate America? And, by extension, Michael Badnarik?

 

[Tricky]

Tricky- your comment on the late WFBuckley is spot-on! I heard him when he gave the commencement address at a private school in AZ back in '70; that man had charisma, exceptional command of the English language, and a piercing sense of humor, unlike me and the usual apologists for the GOP. I rarely agreed with him/his pronouncements, but it was sheer delight to read what he wrote, even more so to listen to that sonorous voice with a slight British accent. I now sorely miss 2 prominent residents of the state of Connecticut. M.

Yeah, he was amazing. I even respected Spiro Agnew, the old criminal, for his skill with words (although Buckley wrote many of his speeches). It is quite possible to respect someone you disagree with strongly. I have a few of them here. Me and Rickzilla, Ziggurat, Peptoabysmal and a few others agree to disagree without long-term rancor. Short term is a different story.

 

[Smackety]

If the implication is that the Republicans don't mind such speech when it comes from there side, I take strong exception to that. I personally, as well as many people I know and have heard speak, think that Pat Robertson/Jerrfy Fallwell and their ilk are despicable and wish that these people were not in our party either.

I have zero patience for people on either side with these kinds of messages. And I'm sick to death of this ongoing strawman argument that all the people in the Republican party are homophobes and bigots and racists. And the left has the audacity to accuse us of mindless attacks when we don't have the facts on our side? Puh-lease.

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right. It could equally be argued that you guys who go apoplectic over such statements from right wing pastors all want to just sweep it all under the rug now that one of your guys is caught up with someone who says the same kinds of crap. Hypocrisy. Bigtime. Be fair and just, and label them all for what they are. Please, I beg you guys to show some intellectual honesty on this.

Really? You do know McCain 'resolved his differences' with Fallwell?

 

[varwoche]

Why do you hate America? And, by extension, Michael Badnarik?

Sure, Palin is fun(?) to observe as was Badnarik. But at least with Badnarik there was 0% concern that he'd become potus.

Sheesh, no props for Les McCann?

 

[calebprime]

respect

 

[pgwenthold]

Am I the only who sees this thread and thinks of Bobby Troupe's character in MASH?

"Goddamned Army!"

 

[fuelair]

If the implication is that the Republicans don't mind such speech when it comes from there side, I take strong exception to that. I personally, as well as many people I know and have heard speak, think that Pat Robertson/Jerrfy Fallwell and their ilk are despicable and wish that these people were not in our party either.

I have zero patience for people on either side with these kinds of messages. And I'm sick to death of this ongoing strawman argument that all the people in the Republican party are homophobes and bigots and racists. And the left has the audacity to accuse us of mindless attacks when we don't have the facts on our side? Puh-lease.

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right. It could equally be argued that you guys who go apoplectic over such statements from right wing pastors all want to just sweep it all under the rug now that one of your guys is caught up with someone who says the same kinds of crap. Hypocrisy. Bigtime. Be fair and just, and label them all for what they are. Please, I beg you guys to show some intellectual honesty on this.

Actually, the problem on our side is we are tired of people having to appear to be churchy to be electable. If Obama did not have to appear churchy, the Wright silliness would not have happened. Palin really is churchy with all the baggage that holds!!

 

[jberryhill]

I have zero patience for people on either side with these kinds of messages.

Abraham Lincoln much?

If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html