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Germany had the atomic bomb first

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A recent Military Channel documentary "Mission for Mussolini" argues Germany first exploded the atomic bomb on a island in the Baltic Sea in October 1944 and again in central Germany in March 1945.

German scientists had the bomb first before the Americans.
 
No they didn't.

ETA: In your fantasy world in which they did, how come they didn't use it? Did it just slip their minds? Or perhaps it was because they were such nice guys?
 
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No they didn't.

ETA: In your fantasy world in which they did, how come they didn't use it? Did it just slip their minds? Or perhaps it was because they were such nice guys?

Wait, wait, wait ...

A nuke? In central Germany?

Without any evidence left?
 
A recent Military Channel documentary "Mission for Mussolini" argues Germany first exploded the atomic bomb on a island in the Baltic Sea in October 1944 and again in central Germany in March 1945.

German scientists had the bomb first before the Americans.

Really? How quaint. What a novel idea!

Good thing we didn't use it first. :eye-poppi
 
Really? How quaint. What a novel idea!

Good thing we didn't use it first. :eye-poppi


The tests were conducted on the Baltic Sea island of Rugen in October 1944 and later in Thuringia, Germany in March 1945.
 
The tests were conducted on the Baltic Sea island of Rugen in October 1944 and later in Thuringia, Germany in March 1945.

Nope.

And please answer my question
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So how would the OP address the findings of the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt who examined the Ohrduf area and found no signs of a nuclear test having taken place.
Link
 
So how would the OP address the findings of the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt who examined the Ohrduf area and found no signs of a nuclear test having taken place.
Link

Never let get facts in the way of a good story. :rolleyes:
 
According to the Wikipedia article on Kurt Diebner which mentions that documentary, two witnesses saw a bright explosion one of whom says there was residual radiation, and the writer of Hitlers Bombe says it was a dirty bomb, not what we would commonly understand as an atomic weapon.

Not exactly conclusive evidence I would say.
 
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The tests were conducted on the Baltic Sea island of Rugen in October 1944 and later in Thuringia, Germany in March 1945.

Rügen of all places?

They evacuated the population from the Bikini Atoll for the test of nuclear bombs.

Rügen is the biggest German island; today the population is about 70,000 people. I am certain it was smaller back then, but there must have been some people!

Where did they all go? And if they stayed, did nobody notice anything?

Rügen is a famous tourist spot - I am sure the cancer rates would be noticed somewhere, no?

Where's the crater?

Oh, it's not a remote island by far. It's just over a mile off of the coast, and it's not longer than 52km or 32 miles. So if anyone set off a nuke there, it would at most have been some 35 miles off of the coast. People tend to notice big mushroom clouds, do they not?
 
Rügen of all places?

They evacuated the population from the Bikini Atoll for the test of nuclear bombs.

Rügen is the biggest German island; today the population is about 70,000 people. I am certain it was smaller back then, but there must have been some people!

Where did they all go? And if they stayed, did nobody notice anything?

Rügen is a famous tourist spot - I am sure the cancer rates would be noticed somewhere, no?

Where's the crater?

Oh, it's not a remote island by far. It's just over a mile off of the coast, and it's not longer than 52km or 32 miles. So if anyone set off a nuke there, it would at most have been some 35 miles off of the coast. People tend to notice big mushroom clouds, do they not?
Evidence? :D
 
A recent Military Channel documentary "Mission for Mussolini" argues Germany first exploded the atomic bomb on a island in the Baltic Sea in October 1944 and again in central Germany in March 1945.

German scientists had the bomb first before the Americans.

No... and they didn't have the jet plane or the rocket first either. The first jet engine was invented by englishman Frank Whittle and the liquid fueled rocket was invented by American Robert Goddard.

The krauts couldn't come up with anything on their own, their alleged advancement was little more than stealing ideas from the brits, the yanks and the only reason they even concieved of a nuclear weapon was because a jew came up with it first.
 
A cut scene from Quentin Terintino’s “Inglorious Bastards”

Wide angle- high view- of Adolph Hitler’s office:
Perky blond nazi secretary (with just hint of nipple showing through her brown shirt) answers phone.
“Office of the Furher, how may I direct your call?”
Voice on the other end “This is Himler put me through to the boss”
Secretary smiling vacantly “right away sir”

Ultra close up of Hitler’s mustache next to the phones mouth piece:
“Good morning Heinrich, how is my atomic bomb coming?”
Medium shot of Himlar, naked next to a swimming pool surrounded by naked pubescent boys.
“Good my furher, very good, but we were wondering just one thing, could we maybe----ah---- have some Jews to do the physics?”

Close up of Hitler’s face turning red with rage:
“Nien,Nien,Nien, Nien”

Close up of Himlar:
“All righty then, just wondering, bye bye now”

Long shot of Hitler on the phone in his opulent office:
“Bye Bye”
 
According to the Wikipedia article on Kurt Diebner which mentions that documentary, two witnesses saw a bright explosion one of whom says there was residual radiation, and the writer of Hitlers Bombe says it was a dirty bomb, not what we would commonly understand as an atomic weapon.

Not exactly conclusive evidence I would say.

I think the author of Hitlers Bombe knows it was not a 'dirty bomb'. He knows it takes time for the public to accept the truth, so he presents a 'dirty bomb' scenario first.

All the eyewitnesses descriptions are inconsistent with a 'dirty bomb'.
 
Rügen of all places?

They evacuated the population from the Bikini Atoll for the test of nuclear bombs.

Rügen is the biggest German island; today the population is about 70,000 people. I am certain it was smaller back then, but there must have been some people!

Where did they all go? And if they stayed, did nobody notice anything?

Rügen is a famous tourist spot - I am sure the cancer rates would be noticed somewhere, no?

Where's the crater?

Oh, it's not a remote island by far. It's just over a mile off of the coast, and it's not longer than 52km or 32 miles. So if anyone set off a nuke there, it would at most have been some 35 miles off of the coast. People tend to notice big mushroom clouds, do they not?

The crater was shown on an aerial photo in the documentary.
 
I think the author of Hitlers Bombe knows it was not a 'dirty bomb'. He knows it takes time for the public to accept the truth, so he presents a 'dirty bomb' scenario first.

All the eyewitnesses descriptions are inconsistent with a 'dirty bomb'.

So in order to convince people of his theory, he makes stuff up ?
 
I think the Chinese made the first rockets. The first jet was 2 guys;

Dr. Hans von Ohain and Sir Frank Whittle are both recognized as being the co-inventors of the jet engine. Each worked separately and knew nothing of the other's work. Hans von Ohain is considered the designer of the first operational turbojet engine. Frank Whittle was the first to register a patent for the turbojet engine in 1930. Hans von Ohain was granted a patent for his turbojet engine in 1936. However, Hans von Ohain's jet was the first to fly in 1939. Frank Whittle's jet first flew in in 1941.

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bljetengine.htm


I found this strangely ironic somehow;

Many people, including Heisenberg himself, argue that the German scientists were morally opposed to the atomic bomb and therefore secretly sabotaged the effort.

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/physics/brau/H182/Term papers '02/Matt E.htm
 
Maybe they had only one? :p


And it was re-usable!

Germany first exploded the atomic bomb on a island in the Baltic Sea in October 1944 and again in central Germany in March 1945.


With technology like that in the hands of the Germans, to quote Neddy Seagoon, "You know, folks, I sometimes wonder how we won the war."

Of course, they didn't have homoeopathy, which had been kept out of Nazi hands by the heroic actions of German homoeopaths.
 

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