General Republicans are nuts.
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Belz...
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Those are specific Republicans.
Stacyhs
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I think a large amount of Republicans live in an alternate reality.
acbytesla
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Yes you're right. The thread is general.
I think a large amount of Republicans are hateful, morally-reprehensible sociopaths, who do nothing but oppress, antagonize, and insult.
Stacyhs
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Well, there's that, too. And a lot of them are in Congress or on FOX, OANN, etc.
newyorkguy
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I think this is a good thread. I'm going to repeat this here, a comment I read made by a political pundit-
The scariest part is, the Republicans remain very popular.
The scariest part is, the Republicans remain very popular.
shemp
a flimsy character...perfidious and despised
And just how long did it take you to come to this earth-shaking conclusion?
shemp
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But other than that, they're fine people, right?
acbytesla
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There was a time when I didn't think they were nuts. Selfish arrogant ******** surely, but not necessarily nuts. Every party or any group large enough always has a few oddballs.
But the Republican party these days is dominated by crazy stupid people.
....The scariest part is, the Republicans remain very popular.
Something I saw in a very long-ago Pogo comic: The grackels are explaining themselves to the mole. "We're happy when our minds are filled with hate! Aren't you?"
I'm just as scared as you are.
I am surprised by your take.
dudalb
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And I think a lot of those are in denial about what the GOP has become.
Stacyhs
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Obviously.
"Hello, pot? This is the kettle...you're black!"
Venom
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Stacyhs
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Few of us on ISF are in denial about what the GOP has become.
Norman Alexander
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And not a brain cell among them.
Trebuchet
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I am, by natural inclination and upbringing, a liberal Republican. My parents were Republicans, my grandparents were Republicans, everyone I knew was Republican. My parents (and the church they took me to) taught me to respect other people, even if they weren't as white or as well off as we were. My parents were disappointed when Goldwater was nommed in 1964 but voted for him anyhow, because they were Republicans.
I'm a social liberal and fiscal conservative. I believe people should be treated equally, the poor should not suffer, and that the government should not spend more than it takes in. If that means the wealthiest one percent have to pay a bit more, so be it.
Perhaps I'm an Eisenhower Republican. The 1950's were a period in which great progress was made in Civil Rights, which were then supported by many Republicans and opposed by southern Democrates. It was the Eisenhower administration that nationalized the National Guard to integrate the schools of Little Rock. And Orville Faubus was a Democrat.
I never left the Republican Party, it left me. Today's GOP is not only racist and elitist, but fiscally irresponsible.
Many, probably most, Republicans are not nuts. What they are is uninformed and misinformed; and they've been Republicans all their lives and can't see how to change. And they are frightened. Frightened by change, frightened by people not exactly like them, and frightened by Fox News and its ilk. Intentionally so, in the latter case.
My late mother was a highly intelligent and well-educated woman. She was raised as a Republican, and raised me as one. She taught me to respect other people; took me to progressive church. But in her last years, she started watching Fox News, which caused her to ask me if Obama was really a Muslim (because Fox was Just Asking Questions) and that she and my father* were destitute because Fox kept telling her Obama had destroyed the stock market. It made me very sad.
Fortunately I was there one day when the mail arrived with a brokerage statement, so I showed her they had a million dollars in their account, and tried gently to explain that she shouldn't trust Fox. I think that helped.
*Dad had been out of it for several years at this point due to illness.
I'm a social liberal and fiscal conservative. I believe people should be treated equally, the poor should not suffer, and that the government should not spend more than it takes in. If that means the wealthiest one percent have to pay a bit more, so be it.
Perhaps I'm an Eisenhower Republican. The 1950's were a period in which great progress was made in Civil Rights, which were then supported by many Republicans and opposed by southern Democrates. It was the Eisenhower administration that nationalized the National Guard to integrate the schools of Little Rock. And Orville Faubus was a Democrat.
I never left the Republican Party, it left me. Today's GOP is not only racist and elitist, but fiscally irresponsible.
Many, probably most, Republicans are not nuts. What they are is uninformed and misinformed; and they've been Republicans all their lives and can't see how to change. And they are frightened. Frightened by change, frightened by people not exactly like them, and frightened by Fox News and its ilk. Intentionally so, in the latter case.
My late mother was a highly intelligent and well-educated woman. She was raised as a Republican, and raised me as one. She taught me to respect other people; took me to progressive church. But in her last years, she started watching Fox News, which caused her to ask me if Obama was really a Muslim (because Fox was Just Asking Questions) and that she and my father* were destitute because Fox kept telling her Obama had destroyed the stock market. It made me very sad.
Fortunately I was there one day when the mail arrived with a brokerage statement, so I showed her they had a million dollars in their account, and tried gently to explain that she shouldn't trust Fox. I think that helped.
*Dad had been out of it for several years at this point due to illness.
Norman Alexander
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I don't think anyone has any major objections to reasoned conservatism. Same as for reasoned liberalism. There's probably a large overlap between them where sensible discussion can be had, and compromise and fair outcomes can be achieved. Which is probably what the US founding fathers had in mind. A balance.
Unfortunately the conservative bloc has been dragged so far away from any sensible solutions by the looney right that that overlap has diminished or just disappeared. The Venn diagram is two circles, one in the middle just slightly offset to the left and the other far over on the other side of the page on the right. There is now no balance. The "left" is unable to compromise because the looney right has taken the conservative side out of the conversation. They are not even in the room, so how can there be dialogue?
The problem with Fox, and the other ranting, spitting alt-right media, is that controversy pays. It pays them. Big time. And that's all they are interested in.
Unfortunately the conservative bloc has been dragged so far away from any sensible solutions by the looney right that that overlap has diminished or just disappeared. The Venn diagram is two circles, one in the middle just slightly offset to the left and the other far over on the other side of the page on the right. There is now no balance. The "left" is unable to compromise because the looney right has taken the conservative side out of the conversation. They are not even in the room, so how can there be dialogue?
The problem with Fox, and the other ranting, spitting alt-right media, is that controversy pays. It pays them. Big time. And that's all they are interested in.