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General Israel/Palestine discussion thread

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LashL

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This thread is for general discussion relating to Israel and Palestine. While it is not intended to encompass all Israel/Palestine discussion, and other threads may be started in relation to specific events in the region, please limit general political discussion about Israel and Palestine to this thread. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.
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gee...do you think there will be some disagreement here?
there will be those that will claim that israel is never wrong, and those with clearer perspectives.
those that have compassion for palestine will be called truthers and anti-semites.

nothing will ever change.
 
gee...do you think there will be some disagreement here?
there will be those that will claim that israel is never wrong, and those with clearer perspectives.
those that have compassion for palestine will be called truthers and anti-semites.

nothing will ever change.



Gee...do you think there will be some disagreement here?
there will be those that will claim that the palestinians are never wrong, and those with clearer perspectives.
those that have compassion for israel will be called zionists and racists.

nothing will ever change.



You know what, bikerdruid? I think you're absolutely right.
 
How to solve the Israel/Palestine problem. Nuk the entire area. Problem solved. Bonus - the number of nuclear weapons in the world will go down. Now do I win the Nobel peace prize?
 
All of the general Israel/Palestine stuff will be moved here on a going forward basis initially, but if Members lack the self-restraint to refrain from trying to circumvent it by posting general discussion of the subject matter in older threads, those posts will be moved here as well.
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me how gays can support a state that puts gays to death, cuz "Queers for Palestine" refuses to.

sorry, I can't resist but...


.....what evidence do you have that the Palestine Authority has put any gays to death for being gay?


I know, I know...you have none because its never happened. I just wanted to point out the silliness in making a claim that you know isn't true.
 
.....what evidence do you have that the Palestine Authority has put any gays to death for being gay?

It's common in states under islamic rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...an_National_Authority#Status_of_homosexuality

According to Shaul Ganon of the Tel-Aviv based gay rights group, Agudah, "The P.A.'s usual excuse for persecuting gays is to label them collaborators--though I know of two cases in the last three years where people were tried explicitly for being homosexuals." "It's now impossible to be an open gay in the P.A." Ganon says that Islamic law is the main justification for such treatment of homosexuals under the Palestinian Authority.​

So why do you think that progressives like "Queers for palestine" support states that engage in violence against homosexuals?
 
Someone is going to have to explain to me how gays can support a state that puts gays to death, cuz "Queers for Palestine" refuses to.

what evidence do you have that the Palestinian Authority has put gays to death?

So why do you think that progressives like "Queers for palestine" support states that engage in violence against homosexuals?

what evidence do you have that the Palestinian Authority has engaged in violence against gays?



...we can keep this going all night if you like, but don't you think it would be better for you NOT to make claims that cannot be backed up?
 
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Can't (or won't) answer the question, can you?

are you going to provide evidence for your two claims?

cause you know, that's how things here at JREF work.

when someone makes a claim, they are supposed to be able to defend it with evidence or at least have a link to someone who has evidence.

otherwise, the claim is crap.

...though I must admit, that I can now be accused of a strawman, as I like everyone else knows that there is no evidence for the Palestinian Authority putting gays to death or the Palestinian Authority doing violence upon gays.

nevertheless, these are your claims....false though they may be.
 
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Funny how you always step up to defend radical islam but when something comes along that cuts against them and that you don't have a response to, all you can think of is to try to change the subject.

So why do you think that progressives like "Queers for palestine" support states that engage in violence against homosexuals?


Time to bravely run away, Sir Robin.
 
Funny how you always step up to defend radical islam but when something comes along that cuts against them and that you don't have a response to, all you can think of is to try to change the subject.

So why do you think that progressives like "Queers for palestine" support states that engage in violence against homosexuals?

Time to bravely run away, Sir Robin.

again with your false question.

of course, a gay group should not supporting a state that does violence against gays or puts gays to death.

but the Palestinian Authority does NOT put gays to death, and has NOT done violence against gays. if they had, you would have provided the evidence for it.

:)
 
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this article says that a gay man fled to Israel after being assaulted by some cops for being gay. he stayed in Israel out of fear, and now the Israeli govt. has sent him back.

yikes...I'm not sure which is worse.

being assaulted by some cops for being gay, or being forced back to a country where you fear for your life, by official government order.

one represents the actions of a few thugs, while the other is official national government policy.
 
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