Fuel Saver Pro

[Solitaire]

Fuel Save Pro

I smell a fuel line manget ad comming on.

It is a MATCHED PAIR of tuned custom sealed Neodymium Super
inductors that generate a frequency resonance between its two faces.

A what?

Operates on the principle of RESONANCE, utilizing a double
chamber frequency with phased frequency modulation.

Maybe it isn't a magnet. Hmmmmmm.......

The FUEL SAVER literally breaks the cluster of molecules apart,
which otherwise could not penetrate a cluster, more Oxygen is
now able to reach the individual molecule and complete combustion
takes place.

Uh?

 

[uneasy]

Yeah, but they had it tested at a "recognized EPA testing laboratory!"

And the website for that laboratory says they are "EPA-recognized!"
http://www.ceecalif.com/

So it must work Any skeptic in Los Angeles region want to visit this testing lab?

 

[Iamme]

Syncronicity--All I'd like to know is if they offer a money-back guarantee. It could all be gibberish...or it could be real. Supposedly that "Tornado" device is real. Maybe this is too.

 

[Luceiia]

With the help of American Automobile Association's fleet of service trucks, we put all these devices through a month of extensive testing.

...

So in the end, which gas saver saved the most?

The mileage actually got worse three percent on the truck with the Fuel Saver Pro magnet.

The Super Fuel Max magnet performed even worse, decreasing mileage by nearly five percent.

After 15,00 miles of driving, the Tornado air swirling device increased mileage 5.3 percent.

So how did our duct tape perform?

"The KIRO fuel-saving device actually finished in first place … with a six percent increase in fuel economy!" [<---Duct Tape!]

...

Over the years the federal government has tested more than a hundred of these devices, and not one has shown a significant increase in gas mileage.

Found this quote by clicking on the link given here:

http://www.antiscam.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=45


Luceiia

 

[_Q_]

Syncronicity--All I'd like to know is if they offer a money-back guarantee. It could all be gibberish...or it could be real. Supposedly that "Tornado" device is real. Maybe this is too.

Sure there's a money-back guarantee!

Well... except for the $18 (per unit) restocking fee....

And, well, of course the shipping/handling charge is not refundable...

And hey, isn't it just amazing that this hasn't set the automotive world on its ear, considering that the tests were performed over 3-1/2 years ago?.

I'm inclined to think it's a load of crap. Please, please, please, let me be wrong. (I'm not going to hold my breath.)


_Q_

 

[wayrad]

Yeah, but they had it tested at a "recognized EPA testing laboratory!"

And the website for that laboratory says they are "EPA-recognized!"
http://www.ceecalif.com/

So it must work Any skeptic in Los Angeles region want to visit this testing lab?

The lab could be reputable (assuming they only tested the car as it was brought to them). It's amazing what a good run at highway speeds will do for some cars' emissions results...

 

[SquishyDave]

Luceiia, ZING! I guess they don't work, funny how I have never heard of anything like this in Australia, surely if they worked as promised, someone would be selling them here?

 

[Iamme]

Years ago...back in the early '70's, I put a fuel saving device in-line with my PCV hose. This was a lean-burn device made to supposedly increase mileage. All I remember is that I wound up needing a valve job on my 289 cid vomit Comet.

Dual-point distributors that came on the scene before our current electronic ignition systems did seem to work. Probably like all after market devices, the results would vary from vehicle to vehicle. The owner of a gas station that I frequented and helped out at, put a Mallory in his 350 GMC, and it sounded and ran like a hotrod, after installing one. I was so impressed I went out and bought an Accel (I had to be different ). Also, a friend of mine's '69 GTO came equipped with dual points and this car could flat-ass fly! (He could get rubber in all four gears with several people in the car!)

 

[davefoc]

epa list of on-line test reports
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm

ftc discussion of fuel saving gadgets
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm

article about AAA testing of fuel saving gadgets
http://www.kirotv.com/consumer/2220354/detail.html

Summary of the above:
All testing described above has suggested no benefit from aftermarket fuel saving devices.
My own experience:
Years ago, before electronic, ignitions systems were standard, I installed one in my 1967 barracuda with a 225 in line 6 cylinder engine. I was fairly careful, in the testing of the device. My results suggested a reduction in mileage of around 10%. I can't explain the result but years later I talked to somebody that at worked for the company that made the after market device and he said my results were not unexpected, although I have forgotten why now.

 

[jimlintott]

For most people simply changing driving habits is the best way to save fuel. Best fuel saving tip - slow down.

 

[Dr. Imago]

For me, it simply comes down to this: If these devices actually worked, they'd come standard in automobile engines.

-TT

 

[Iamme]

But Third Twin. You are discounting the'mother of invention'. Contracts have already been 'let' on components for cars. THEN comes along the better mousetrap. That's the way it is with ALL industry. There ARE plenty of gadgets that come along that really do work.

The Tornado device that goes in-line with your air cleaner? This IS supposed to work. It is heavily endorsed by Jeff Brooks (nationally syndicatred radio car show host). I have seen a show on this device where some independent testing lab has ascribed before and after values to a variety of automobiles, and each vehicles horse power and fuel mileage were recorded and listed. They all went up. The best vehicle brand got about 20 additional horsepower and 22% better mileage.

Why doesn't the factory include these? Hmmmm. Well, they do cost about $70. Car companies don't include a lot of nice things that aftermarket companies sell for vehicles. They must think that it's not worth it for any number of reasons.

 

[Badger]

If you're going to put anything over your carb, try a K&N air filter (or similar product). There's a reason racers use this stuff.

More air into the carb means better fuel combustion. That tornado thing and anything like it just gets in the way of the air.

 

[Rolfe]

Every time I've driven through Germany, my car has gone far further than expected on a tank of petrol. I don't know if it's simply being in Germany (tank filled in England), maybe the road surfaces, or if it was actually the petrol I bought there.

Anybody else noticed this?

And talking of roads, what about Belgian standards of motorway repair?

Rolfe.

 

[tracer]

Syncronicity--All I'd like to know is if they offer a money-back guarantee. It could all be gibberish...or it could be real. Supposedly that "Tornado" device is real. Maybe this is too.

These devices, or ones similar to them, do "work" -- in the sense that, if you follow their installation instructions, your gas mileage will increase.

However, part of their installation instructions requires you to tune your engine to run leaner. It is this retuning of your engine, and not the fuel-line magnetic field resonance thingy, that causes the increase in gas mileage.

Unfortunately, it also causes your engine to run hotter, which drastically reduces your engine's useful lifespan. So each year you use it, you'll save a few dollars in gas but lose several dozen times that much in the accelerated depreciation of your car's engine.

 

[teddygrahams]

For most people simply changing driving habits is the best way to save fuel. Best fuel saving tip - slow down.

So a car going 1mph will get better mileage than a car going 10mph ? Hmmmmm....

I think a better way is to avoid stopping.,, and go downhill whenever possible. And avoid picking up fat hitchhikers.... stick to the skinny ones.

 

[_Q_]

The Tornado device that goes in-line with your air cleaner? This IS supposed to work. It is heavily endorsed by Jeff Brooks (nationally syndicatred radio car show host). I have seen a show on this device where some independent testing lab has ascribed before and after values to a variety of automobiles, and each vehicles horse power and fuel mileage were recorded and listed. They all went up. The best vehicle brand got about 20 additional horsepower and 22% better mileage.

lamme,

Are you using one of these gadgets on your vehicle?

If so, then what improvements have you seen in fuel economy and power?

If you're not using one of these, then why aren't you?


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[Badger]

So a car going 1mph will get better mileage than a car going 10mph ? Hmmmmm....

I think a better way is to avoid stopping.,, and go downhill whenever possible. And avoid picking up fat hitchhikers.... stick to the skinny ones.

With regard to speed, air resistance increases the faster you go, meaning you'll need to burn more gas to cover the same distance at a faster rate.

Also, there is an optimum RPM that your engine will run at to generate best horsepower/fuel volume consumed. So, if your gear ratio is right then yes, a car going 1 mph will get better mileage than a cr going 10 mph. But, in the real world you'll find that if you drive at 55 mph on the hwy, you'll get about the best gas mileage that your car can get. (this is a generalization which will vary depending on individual vehicle conditions.)

You're right about stopping/starting. You'll want to minimize those to conserve momentum of your vehicle.

And the "fat hitchikers" thing isn't so silly as it sounds. Check your car for extra stuff in it (golfclubs in the trunk, crap lying in the back seat) as any extra weight you carry translates to less gas mileage.

 

[CurtC]

Badger wrote:
But, in the real world you'll find that if you drive at 55 mph on the hwy, you'll get about the best gas mileage that your car can get.

So are you saying that at 55 mph, the car would get better gas mileage than at 40 mph, or whatever the speed is when it shifts into its highest gear? At 55, the engine turns the same number of revolutions per unit distance, but the throttle is opened up more, letting in more fuel per revolution. The optimal gas mileage is the speed when you shift into your car's final gear.

 

[jimlintott]

Why doesn't the factory include these?

I would be very surprised if the auto manufacturers haven't tested this type of thing on a flow bench already. Knowing how the air flows into and through the head is vital to engine performance. Currently all intakes are carefully tuned. Some are dynamically variable and many cars now have variable valve timing. If a swirly device would help it would be in there.

If you're going to put anything over your carb, try a K&N air filter (or similar product). There's a reason racers use this stuff.

Only partly true. Certainly a dirty paper air filter will hurt fuel consumption but these high flow air filters only give you a benefit when you want a high volume of air flow. In other words a wide open throttle. At lower speeds the engine requires a lower volume of air which is easily handled by a paper filter. No real gain.