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Frist back teaching ID ...

Grammatron said:
I hope that one day you'll be able to post links that work on the first try :p
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Well, hope in one hand, and do you-know-what in the other... :p
 
Don't know why the link doesn't work...anyway, here's the story. I am sure I am violating some copyright by posting this, but please know I tried to post a link rather than cut and paste the story....:o

Frist Backs 'Intelligent Design' Teaching By ROSE FRENCH, Associated Press Writer
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Echoing similar comments from President Bush, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said "intelligent design" should be taught in public schools alongside evolution.

Frist, R-Tenn., spoke to a Rotary Club meeting Friday and told reporters afterward that students need to be exposed to different ideas, including intelligent design.

"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.

Frist, a doctor who graduated from Harvard Medical School, said exposing children to both evolution and intelligent design "doesn't force any particular theory on anyone. I think in a pluralistic society that is the fairest way to go about education and training people for the future."

The theory of intelligent design says life on earth is too complex to have developed through evolution, implying that a higher power must have had a hand in creation. Nearly all scientists dismiss it as a scientific theory, and critics say it's nothing more than religion masquerading as science.

Bush recently told a group of Texas reporters that intelligent design and evolution should both be taught in schools "so people can understand what the debate is about."

That comment sparked criticism from opponents, including Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, who called Bush "anti-science."

Frist, who is considering a presidential campaign in 2008, recently angered some conservatives by bucking Bush policy on embryonic stem cell research, voicing his support for expanded research on the subject.

Frist said his decision to endorse stem cell research was "a matter of science," but he said there was no conflict between his position on stem cell research and his position on intelligent design.

"To me, I see no disconnect between that and stem cell research," Frist said. "I base my beliefs on stem cell research both on science and my faith."
 
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"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.
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In my mind, "a broad range of science" is along the lines of biology, chemistry, and physics. It does not include faith. I'm not sure what "a broad range of fact" is supposed to mean.
 
Try this one

says Frist:

Frist, a doctor who graduated from Harvard Medical School, said exposing children to both evolution and intelligent design "doesn't force any particular theory on anyone. I think in a pluralistic society that is the fairest way to go about education and training people for the future."
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Edited to add: why don't all you @#$%$@^% wan**** get back to work instead of beating me to the punch! :p
 
Upchurch said:
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In my mind, "a broad range of science" is along the lines of biology, chemistry, and physics. It does not include faith. I'm not sure what "a broad range of fact" is supposed to mean.
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Well Senator Frist, I could operrate, but I'll just prey it goes away...don't you have faith that it will?
 
Grammatron said:
Well Senator Frist, I could operrate, but I'll just prey it goes away...don't you have faith that it will?
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[stretching for a joke]

I wonder if Dr. Frist would promote condom usage for the eyes, given that he does not know whether or not HIV can be transferred through tears.

[/stretching for a joke]
 
headscratcher4 said:
"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith

faith
noun
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
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Rewritten:

"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including beliefs that do not rest on logical proof or material evidence."
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Once gets the feeling -- for all his many faults -- that Bush is one who really believes this stuff...what's Frist's excuse?He is pandering. Sure, it is political, but it makes him seem so small and withough principle.

When politicians mandate what is science, that is the fast road to lysenkoism ... he should be so proud.
 
Does he also support teaching of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism and Intelligent Falling theory too?
 
Jorghnassen said:
Does he also support teaching of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism and Intelligent Falling theory too?
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My personal theory is that sometimes in the future I will invent the timemachine and then travle back in time and create human life on earth as we know it. Which would also explain all the problems human have.
 
Here is what I would say to Frist:

It's bad enough that US kids are stupid. We don't need a program, Senator, that actually teaches them to be stupid, or tells that that it's okay to be stupid, as long as their stupidity is faith-based.

Stupidity in the name of religion is still stupidity.
"I think today a pluralistic society should have access to a broad range of fact, of science, including faith," Frist said.
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Speaking of stupid, this remark fall into that category. Let me explain why, and I'll use short words.

"Faith" is not "fact." "Faith" is a point of view or a state of mind. It is trust in something to be true. But just because there is faith in something, that doesn't make the thing being trusted true.

"Faith" is not information, it is not data, it is not knowledge, it is not cognizance, it is not theory, it is not research, it is not learning, it is not experimentation, it is not even philosophy or wisdom. It is a purely personal and completely subjective mindset.
 
Yes

Upchurch said:
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I'm not sure what "a broad range of fact" is supposed to mean.
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Yes, pretty funny. There are these facts and this other set of facts that contradict them.
 
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