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RAMS

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At his thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77137

Please address and respond accordingly you are in error:

You have avoided my invite to respond 10 times now, to respond to the fact that the 'I' beams, angled cut, as pictured throughout this thread topic as linked, were part of demolition 3 weeks after 911 day, at WTC-2. There were no explosives whatsoever used or found. You are in error. That you are in error in that the photos in that thread and others like it were not taken on 911 day or soon thereafter, but were taken 3 weeks later by members FDNY.

I demand if you are to state as you do and have on this topic that these beams and other claims are 'proof' that the WTC was taken down by explosives, you give equal time to the correction that you are categorically in error, and that is not subject to debate.

Again, I have provided contact information, phone numbers, email source, etc, at FDNY and First Responders for you and any other members of 'Strange' who wish to incorrectly espouse these 'I' Beams were blown with pentex, amithol, primacord, sodium pechlorate, thermite, thermex, etc, or any other explosive in some predetermined fashion with malice.

Here is your contact information again for you:

(718)-999-2845/1234 FDNY

or email Melissa Smith: smithma@fdny.nyc.gov

Melissa will send you to First Responders who will verify the many accurate responses so posted by many here in this thread as linked, concerning that photo and many like it posted all over the net.

That includes Mr. Steven Jones "Professor Boy", Dylan Avery at LC, you, or any other 'professional' within this 'conspiracy' realm now known as 'Strange'..........

Repeating your odd question again, yes, I am taking to you. Categorically.

Respond now. I hope you can find this thread topic and respond with the same verve you, Pagan and so many others in kind so readily respond to other unfound allegations and allegory. This is how dissent works. Respond please.


Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
it seems that all we do these days is wait for the denier trolls to respond to our challenges!

oh well.
 
Scooby won't address the situation, instead, he will spin out another conspiracy try to lead you off the trail, and accuse you of being part of the conspiracy.

Its CT101. Conspiracy Theorists have it easy, they never have to offer proof, instead, they insist that you prove THEM wrong.

Good luck, but it will be like trying to nail jello to the wall.
 
Bump for scoobs, as he seems to have overlooked your thread, RAMS.
 
We've corrected hundreds and hundreds of truther errors on this forum. When was the last time any of us has seen a truther say, "Whoops, I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? I stand corrected. Thank you."
 
Dr. Lao said:
Scooby won't address the situation, instead, he will spin out another conspiracy try to lead you off the trail, and accuse you of being part of the conspiracy.

Its CT101. Conspiracy Theorists have it easy, they never have to offer proof, instead, they insist that you prove THEM wrong.

Good luck, but it will be like trying to nail jello to the wall.
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Your post is timely and correct as well. I took on all of 'Strange 1' And was sued for $60,000,000 for the effort, dealing with people that even use the same syntax, wording, empty conjecture, threats, etc., as this bunch. The traits are same for both.

Art Bell dismissal docs, here:

http://www.behold-the-rage.com/dismiss_page_1.html

It seems they, (The CT members of 'Strange 2' are:

1. the same ilk of delusion as 'Strange 1'
2. married to feelings over substance
3. bent to drop bombs of silliness, then flee and hide
4. married to allegory over fact
5. unable to confront reality
6. pathological liars, including Jones, Avery, Scoop poop, 28 tourettes, et al.....
7. bereft of cognizance compared to the rest of us in reason.
8. pathological cowards.

If the scoop-poop does not respond, along with the terse email from Avery and the overall sinister flavor of this ilk, it is time to take this up the chain some, as I did with Bell and 'Strange 1'.

The other method that worked in 'Strange 1' is simply to ignore the poster, and move on and go after the biggest guns possible within the cult in question, as with dealing with Bell and the cultist of that Strange.

I did prove (scoop poop) wrong, categorically, and the residule fact is not subject to debate. There is also a method to the madness of my insisting he respond with unconditional conpitulation. That is what court is for.

Behold and watch.

Good post, good point, and thank you for the heads up.

Robert

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
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You seem to have a real talent with one-two punches RAMS. Welcome to the forum, in case I haven't said so already.
 
RAMS said:
Your post is timely and correct as well. I took on all of 'Strange 1' And was sued for $60,000,000 for the effort, dealing with people that even use the same syntax, wording, empty conjecture, threats, etc., as this bunch. The traits are same for both.

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US$60 Million?! keee-ripes!
 
Gravy said:
We've corrected hundreds and hundreds of truther errors on this forum. When was the last time any of us has seen a truther say, "Whoops, I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? I stand corrected. Thank you."
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You are correct. Your dissent is excellent, reading and consulting same is wonderful.

So, one simply raises the notch some.........Libel is serious business. However, to succeed one must establsh a 'victim'. For Strange 1 I used NASA. In Strange 2, perhaps FDNY would be a likely candidate.

This is going to be immensely fun to engage. And so many dynamically foul targets to choose from; Jones, LC, Avery, S for T, etc.

(I may need your permission to excerpt some of your data you so graciously have put together for all of us in this endeavor.)

Thank you in advance.

Robert

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
Gravy, and all of you, unlike 'Strange 1' there are far more reasonable and very intelligent posters here on subject for which I am most impressed, inspired by, and relieved to find.

As to your comment about this:

"I stand corrected, I was mistaken. I overlooked those facts.", etc, etc.

That is how i insisted with 'Strange 1' as they defamed NASA, and were corrected. Much as they are doing to FDNY, now, as then with NASA.

And for anyone interested, I am communicating with FDNY on this topic, at this time.

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
Gravy said:
We've corrected hundreds and hundreds of truther errors on this forum. When was the last time any of us has seen a truther say, "Whoops, I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? I stand corrected. Thank you."
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This a large part of why twoofers are not skeptics.

A true skeptic can admit when they're wrong and even change their view in light of new information.

Meanwhile, twoofers cling to every last bit of crap that floats their way.
 
Gravy said:
We've corrected hundreds and hundreds of truther errors on this forum. When was the last time any of us has seen a truther say, "Whoops, I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? I stand corrected. Thank you."
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Its amazing to think they dont realise how much more respect you get in life when you admit your mistakes and learn from them.
 
Gravy said:
We've corrected hundreds and hundreds of truther errors on this forum. When was the last time any of us has seen a truther say, "Whoops, I sure got that one wrong, didn't I? I stand corrected. Thank you."
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I think that might have been me :)
 
RAMS,

What was the basis of Bell's lawsuit? I, for one, would love to see the complaint if you could post a copy of it or PM me :)

(The docs are all listed on the docket at PACER but, for some reason, the individual documents are not coming up for me at the moment)
 
RAMS said:
And for anyone interested, I am communicating with FDNY on this topic, at this time.
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That's good, but I've always been curious as to why members of the FDNY don't speak out against the troofers, especially when they directly implicate them in the destruction of WTC 7.
 
The Almond said:
You seem to have a real talent with one-two punches RAMS. Welcome to the forum, in case I haven't said so already.
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Thank you for the good welcome. A change to see so many good posts, on topic, with great data.

Robert

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
I doubt he'll respond. Heck I pinned him to the floor on "the missing explosives in the video audio" and all he did was shout abuse and wriggle till it was obvious that he was nothing more than a troll who likely doesn't believe anything he says anyway.

I do feel a little ashamed of my effort there though. It is now quite clear that he is mentally unable to deal with even the smallest challenges
 
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