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Finally we know why we need more guns!

Travis

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As a good old gun hater I sometimes find myself at a loss wondering why guns are even needed. Surely we aren't facing an uprising of tin cans or terminator squirrels. Or even terminator tin cans. Then someone like Larry Pratt, the executive director of Gun Owners of America, just illuminates the great need for guns. On his Gun Owners News Hour (You don't listen to it? Do you hate the constitution?) he was talking with right wing author Lawrence Mackin. He wrote a book called The Police Revolt of 2016. The following is from the actual Amazon synopsis.

The Police Revolt of 2016 is an action packed, fast paced story of a diverse group of patriotic police officers, federal agents and military personnel whose lives become entwined through their efforts to uphold their oaths to defend the Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They begin to organize as the United States military is systematically weakened and downsized by Obama. As events unfold, they realize that the country is in much greater danger than they ever imagined. More and more police officers are murdered, and police survivors are investigated by Obama's Justice Department for defending themselves. While police are being persecuted by the media across the country, The Sons and Daughters of Liberty discover that there is a parallel revolution being planned from inside the White House itself. A group of radical Islamists allied with Obama's private internal army composed of units from the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA, are planning to establish an Islamic dictatorship within the United States.

Heck, what is at all unrealistic about Obama leading an army of Islamists in a crusade to kill police officers and create a Muslim dictatorship? I mean Amazon reviewer David Surrette gave it five stars and noted "The story is fast and accurate. It depicts todays geo political events as many Americans see them. If you are a flag and freedom loving citizen... this book is for you".

See, if you hate this book you hate flags and freedom. I rather like freedom but could do without flags. I guess I'd only give it three stars then.

So, this Mackin guy and Larry Pratt sat down to discuss their mutual love of Downton Abbey, freedom and opposing that scoundrel Obama. One of those items I may have made up. They agreed that the best way to oppose all the evil things Obama is planning is to kill him with kindness, love and understanding. Only instead of kindness, love and understanding, they'd use guns. South Park is never not relevant.

And of course they'd need all sorts of kindness, love and understanding guns. I mean Mackin has a pretty solid case. For example he told Pratt that Obama had signed a deal with Russia “to bring Soviet troops into this country in the event that we needed extra security, such as a Super Bowl event, for example". I would think most soldiers that served in the Soviet army would be a little old by now but be sure to look for them protecting Coldplay when that Super Bowl thingy happens. That won't in any way be weird.

What isn't weird is that alongside the geriatric Soviet shock troops will be hordes of illegal aliens. It seems that picking tomatoes in the California sun was all just a Mr Miyagi stealth training regimen designed to turn them into a crack military force that Obama will lead from inside his volcano lair.

And because Mackin has never come across a Snopes rumor he didn't implicitly think was actually true he also noted that Obama had personally authorized the importation of military age, male Muslim refugees from all over the Middle East via channels that bypass all background checks.

But you remain unconvinced? Well Mackin isn't done. He also brings news personally conveyed to him by evil Spock with the goatee that Janet Napolitano was on record...somewhere...about wanting to buy every federal employee an AR-15 so they could join Obama's ragtag personal army of old Soviet men, Mexican illegals and Islamic radicals.

And why are Islamic radicals working with Obama? Well, says Mackin, that is because America will have nuked Israel. And that is because Obama struck a deal with Iran which says America nukes Israel if Israel attacks Iran. Because of course this happened and somehow it was never documented or even makes sense.

We should believe Mackin, said Mackin, because this is all the stuff the Obama administration is already doing, says Mackin. Remember it isn't a lie if he thinks it is true.

So, does Pratt denounce these ideas? Does he steer things back to something resembling reality? Does the weight of being the executive of an influential gun lobby group make him realize he needs to keep things tempered and restrained? Or does he just go completely along with all these ideas and offer up his reasoned analysis that it is all completely believable?

Of course he did the last thing: “...as much as the president has tried to cull the military of senior officers who are known to be pro-American … he certainly hasn’t gotten them all...”

One little thought to help you stay up at night. The Gun Owners of America is coordinating with Ted Cruz on a 2nd Amendment Coalition. Whatever that is.

And there you have it folks. We have to arm ourselves because if we don't we'll have Muslim Hispanic Soviet soldiers telling us to pray to Mecca under orders from President For Life Obama. Or, you know, to protect us from all the Pratts and Mackins of the world. Wait....does this mean I'm now pro gun?
 
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You are familiar with the expression, "with friends like you, who needs enemies."

Ranb


Well that's confusing. Travis quotes all the craziness in those two, and you appear to respond with a direct ad hominem attack on Travis.

From that I assume you must be a fan of the two children he was describing.

But I don't know you, so maybe you are applying this phrase to the two stars of Travis' piece? It's not clear exactly what you mean with your cryptic comment.
 
I suppose I should have added a :) then? His position on guns/ammo is well known here on the forum. Anyone with Travis' attitude towards firearms calls themselves pro-gun, then...........

I was not attacking him.

Ranb
 
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OK, thanks for the clarification. I do know Travis is a "forthright" speaker on this topic, and the evils of right wing nuttery in general, and thereby draws ire from a certain fraction of the people who frequent this forum (I avoid the word "community" :cool: ).

Hence my uncertainty as to your intent with your quip.

It always amazes me that some people will step in to defend every piece of insane neo-con behaviour, just because they identify as right-wing, or "conservative" (a word as corrupted as the equally meaningless use of "liberal" for all things leftish).
 
It always amazes me that some people will step in to defend every piece of insane neo-con behaviour, just because they identify as right-wing, or "conservative" (a word as corrupted as the equally meaningless use of "liberal" for all things leftish).
It never ceases to amaze me how much easier my life has become since I abandoned religion and stopped voting along party lines.

Ranb
 
It never ceases to amaze me how much easier my life has become since I abandoned religion and stopped voting along party lines.

Ranb



In the sense that you feel fresher? Your mind is clear, and you feel more alive?

Sort of like giving up tobacco and alcohol! ;)
 
As a good old gun hater I sometimes find myself at a loss wondering why guns are even needed. <snip>
Because stirring up nonsensical panic over crime, imminent firearms seizures and terrorism is good for the sales and profits of manufacturers.
 
So, Mr. Obama (if that even is his real name) decided to wait until 2016 to implement his plan. Wouldn't it have been better to do it before 8 years of record-breaking gun and ammo sales?
 
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So, Mr. Obama (if that even is his real name) decided to wait until 2016 to implement his plan. Wouldn't it have been better to do it before 8 years of record-breaking gun and ammo sales?

Let me try and reason this through like the quotes in the opening post... right think I've got it.

Just shows how diabolical he is. Obviously he's been tryin' to force the manufacturers to produce more guns in a shorter time so they have to lower their quality standards which means when people try to use their god given weapons (Jesus be praised) against his crack elite force of muslim geriatric soviet troops they will blow up in their hands.
 
Let me try and reason this through like the quotes in the opening post... right think I've got it.

Just shows how diabolical he is. Obviously he's been tryin' to force the manufacturers to produce more guns in a shorter time so they have to lower their quality standards which means when people try to use their god given weapons (Jesus be praised) against his crack elite force of muslim geriatric soviet troops they will blow up in their hands.

Are you one of my cousins?
 
Today Ted Cruz sent out an email asking for fundraising for Larry Pratt's group.

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Because I already saw it work back in 2013. Do you remember how, in the wake of the sickening massacre at Sandy Hook, the president chose to use that tragedy as an excuse to further his long-standing hostility to the 2nd Amendment?

Back then, I was honored to work with GOA and lead a massive outpouring of grassroots opposition that shut down the Obama Gun Grab (shocking the media and the D.C. elites), but obviously, the fight is not over.
And, it is clear to me (and I know it is to you) that President Obama’s new plans to impose gun control by Executive Order have nothing to do with keeping Americans safe, and everything to do with his left-wing hatred of your liberty and your rights under the Constitution.
Gun Owners of America – an organization dedicated to no-compromise grassroots lobbying in support of the 2nd Amendment – has developed a massive plan to stop the Obama gun grab dead in its tracks . But there’s not much time to put it into action!
The good news is, we can stop them. But this fight will not be easy – or cheap.
That’s why, in addition to your signed PETITION, I hope you’ll agree to make a generous contribution to help stop the Obama Executive Gun Grab.
Your generous contribution will help pay for GOA’s massive mail, phone, and digital program designed to mobilize upwards of four million Americans to lobby their elected officials. That way, you and I can ensure all my colleagues in the House and Senate really begin to feel the heat.
Your contribution will also help GOA launch a full-scale public relations and advertising campaign nationwide, exposing the truth behind the anti-gun politicians’ real agenda of mass confiscation.
 

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