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EU Copyrights Laws are changing (or something).

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https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...to-pay-billions-to-publishers-facebook-google

While they apparently voted against this in July, they seem to be in favor for it right now.

And then, Twitter just exploded after this happened:

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1039845484431519744

That string of tweets from that guy smell woo-ish.

Could someone tell me whether this is a good thing or not? I only watch Youtube vids and sometimes use a YTdownloader for music. According to this pic, it should be (don't see anything negative with what written):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5ZwUAXsAUkfQL.jpg
 
tinribmancer said:
https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...to-pay-billions-to-publishers-facebook-google

While they apparently voted against this in July, they seem to be in favor for it right now.

And then, Twitter just exploded after this happened:

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1039845484431519744

That string of tweets from that guy smell woo-ish.

Could someone tell me whether this is a good thing or not? I only watch Youtube vids and sometimes use a YTdownloader for music. According to this pic, it should be (don't see anything negative with what written):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5ZwUAXsAUkfQL.jpg
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Yes, heaven forbid that the tech giants making billions out of other people's content should share a sliver of their ill-gotten gains...
 
tinribmancer said:
That string of tweets from that guy smell woo-ish.
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think you might be onto something there

[QUOTE='that guy' on twitter] The entire British political class thinks Nineteen-Eighty-Four is a manual for statecraft.[/QUOTE]

herp-de-derp...what does N. Korea use as their manual then? that's my main problem with unwarranted hyberbole...
 
complaint i saw brought up was 'fair use'. apparently that is no longer allowed.
 
Yeah,Lets' be careful if in our rush to punish "Evil Big Companies" we don't throw free speech out the window.
The elimination of Fair Use is a huge concern for me. But what does that matter as long as we sock it to the Evil Capitalist?
Oppersive regulation isn't perfect, but it will do until we can get complete and open Government takeover of everything. Then we will have utopia....
 
DreadNiK said:
think you might be onto something there



herp-de-derp...what does N. Korea use as their manual then? that's my main problem with unwarranted hyberbole...
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Haven't even seen the "George Orwell" stuff. :D

From what I've gathered, the main group reacting negative to the outcome (some even answering tweets from MEP members that they should die) are:

-Communists
-Euroskeptics
-Youtubers (irony)
-Boogie2988
-Alex Jones
-RationalWiki (some users)
-Gamers

I smell the rise of "CopyrightGate" if the EP votes in favor for this in January...
 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/...t-content-regulations-grim-day-digital-rights

New Copyright Powers, New "Terrorist Content" Regulations: A Grim Day For Digital Rights in Europe

Despite waves of calls and emails from European Internet users, the European Parliament today voted to accept the principle of a universal pre-emptive copyright filter for content-sharing sites, as well as the idea that news publishers should have the right to sue others for quoting news items online – or even using their titles as links to articles. Out of all of the potential amendments offered that would fix or ameliorate the damage caused by these proposals, they voted for [the] worst on offer.
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The best that can be said about the Copyright in the Digital Single Market Directive, as it stands, is that it is so ridiculously extreme that it looks set to shock a new generation of Internet activists into action – just as the DMCA, SOPA/PIPA and ACTA did before it.
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But it's all for the PUblic Good...

Of course "The Public Good" is the standard excuse/justification for just about every attack on individual freedom every made.
The worship some Euros have for the wise, almight State is something I will never understand.
 
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lmao @ people believing that giving up "fair use" laws is something that the corporations do not want.

Wake up people.

also, a bonus lmao @ making it illegal to quote news, even the title!!

It's just amazing how dumb people can be. Tricked into thinking that they are sticking it to the corporations when this is exactly the opposite.
 
This is The End said:
lmao @ people believing that giving up "fair use" laws is something that the corporations do not want.

Wake up people.

also, a bonus lmao @ making it illegal to quote news, even the title!!

It's just amazing how dumb people can be. Tricked into thinking that they are sticking it to the corporations when this is exactly the opposite.
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I think it's cynically brilliant: portray something big corporations want as an anti corporation measure.
I also think you have people who just plain love government regulation regardless of what it accomoplishes, I think they see it as a road to total state control of the economy..and I think some people here..although they will not say so......really want that.
 
dudalb said:
But it's all for the PUblic Good...

Of course "The Public Good" is the standard excuse/justification for just about every attack on individual freedom every made.
The worship some Euros have for the wise, almight State is something I will never understand.
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What I don't understand is the apparent wish to make a single country out of Europe. That won't work. The EU should have been an economic alliance, not a state.
 
Belz... said:
What I don't understand is the apparent wish to make a single country out of Europe. That won't work. The EU should have been an economic alliance, not a state.
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Great minds think alike. Bring back the Common Market, forget trying to forge some kind of United States Of Europe.Just won't work.
 
Pope130 said:
Of course, there were those 620,000 some odd deaths sorting out the details.
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When it comes to civil wars we're pikers compared to Europe.

Although they've had a lot more practice at it.

We've had one worth speaking of since the U.S. was formed. A big one, I'll grant you, but still. Europe seems to have them the way we have football championships. And they've been keeping it up for centuries.

They're pros. They they need a Union as badly as we ever did.
 
dudalb said:
Great minds think alike. Bring back the Common Market, forget trying to forge some kind of United States Of Europe.Just won't work.
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The problem is, and this is the reason the CM moved to the EU, that in order to ensure a level playing field for a common market it helps to ensure matching standards, and that includes aligning things like copyright rules.

I don't see why that's an issue.

This isn't about making a USE. It's the consequence of trying to align the market so country A and country B in the union don't get into a pointless trade war trying to undercut each other.
 
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