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Eric Trump Invokes 5th

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Eric Trump Invoked Fifth Amendment About 500 Times, N.Y. AG Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-fifth-amendment-about-500-times-n-y-ag-says

Eric Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment more than 500 times when the Trump Organization executive vice president was deposed as part of a civil probe into the company’s asset valuations, New York’s top law enforcement officer told a judge.
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I wonder if Eric Trump got advice from his father before he invoked his 5th Amendment rights?

Ranb
 
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Never talk to the police.





Also, this investigation has been going on since Trump announced he was running for president, if there was anything to find it would have been found by now. Especially since it's a tax investigation and the tax code is so complicated that you can go to five different tax lawyers and get five different answers on what's legal and what's not.
 
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cmikes said:
Never talk to the police.





Also, this investigation has been going on since Trump announced he was running for president, if there was anything to find it would have been found by now. Especially since it's a tax investigation and the tax code is so complicated that you can go to five different tax lawyers and get five different answers on what's legal and what's not.
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Yeah, the Trumps are dirty as hell, but invoking the 5th when questioned by people trying to imprison you is pretty much always the right move. Don't talk to the cops who are trying to imprison you is good advice for the Trumps and for everyone else. Guilty people and innocent people alike should (and do) invoke the fifth.

The worst part of having a criminal president like Trump is seeing liberals, who have traditionally been much better about civil rights issues, becoming rabid pro-cop fanatics and repeating stupid axioms like invoking the 5th is a indication of guilt.

I very much hope the NY AG nails this criminal family to the wall. The Trump fail-son invoking the 5th is not a useful data point.
 
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There is a big difference between not talking to authorities without decent legal representation and pleading the 5th.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
There is a big difference between not talking to authorities without decent legal representation and pleading the 5th.
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Decent legal representation is going to advise people to not help the cops build a case against you. Innocent people with legal representation are extremely frequently counseled to invoke the 5th.

There's so much good, juicy indications of guilt in the Trump dumpster fire, it's maddening that such nonsense is being repeated.
 
Sure, obviously the correct answer is, "It's not wrong to take the 5th."

The problem, and the main reason Eric Trump is getting flak for it, is because it was the President Trump who insisted that only the mafia takes the 5th.
 
pgwenthold said:
Sure, obviously the correct answer is, "It's not wrong to take the 5th."

The problem, and the main reason Eric Trump is getting flak for it, is because it was the President Trump who insisted that only the mafia takes the 5th.
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I'm just bracing myself for more "justice is coming" type media fervor from the braindead pundits. I really thought the big wet fart that was the Mueller investigation would have been the end of that, but I'm sure every minor procedural update in this investigation is going to be trumpeted as the death knell for the Trumps.

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Occupy Democrats said:
BREAKING: New York investigators announce that Eric Trump “pleaded the Fifth” over 500 times when interviewed about his family’s tax fraud, although his daddy Donald said, “only the mob pleads the Fifth” while attacking Hillary in 2016. RT IF YOU THINK THAT THE TRUMPS ARE GUILTY!
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https://twitter.com/search?q=fifth&src=typed_query

This is the kind of nonsense I'm talking about.
 
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Ranb said:
Eric Trump Invoked Fifth Amendment About 500 Times, N.Y. AG Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-fifth-amendment-about-500-times-n-y-ag-says



I wonder if Eric Trump got advice from his father before he invoked his 5th Amendment rights?

Ranb
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So how many times was he asked the same question in slightly different ways? It is not as if the AG is 'innocent' in this he must have put 500 questions to ET knowing that a competent lawyer would advise him to decline to answer.
 
I can't see YouTube at work, but if the link above is the law professor talking about the 5th Amendment and giving equal time to a police officer/law student, I think it is an excellent video.

I'm a huge fan of the 5th Amendment and the rights it protects. My main reason for this thread is Donald Trump's position that only criminals use 5th Amendment protections.
 
webfusion said:
Also, it has been reported that the Trump Organization provided a grand total of 3 documents from Donald himself, to the NY A-G in response to a subpoena issued more than two years ago. "Only three of more than 5 million documents the company handed over in the two years since were actually produced by Mr. Trump."
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-organization-produced-just-3-194747881.html
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That is truly astonishing! How did he mange to produce 3 documents in that time period?
 
Ranb said:
I can't see YouTube at work, but if the link above is the law professor talking about the 5th Amendment and giving equal time to a police officer/law student, I think it is an excellent video.

I'm a huge fan of the 5th Amendment and the rights it protects. My main reason for this thread is Donald Trump's position that only criminals use 5th Amendment protections.
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Exactly. He has every right to plead the fifth, but he pissed on that right before, and even if we acknowledge that he still has the right, I think we're entitled to point out the irony.
 
cmikes said:
Also, this investigation has been going on since Trump announced he was running for president, if there was anything to find it would have been found by now. Especially since it's a tax investigation and the tax code is so complicated that you can go to five different tax lawyers and get five different answers on what's legal and what's not.
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Whatever "investigations" that were occuring in the past were hampered by the fact that trump was president, and as such was in a position to obstruct various investigations. It has only been recently that investigators have had enough access to records to do a proper investigation.

And while some experts might give different advice on some issues, i doubt any will recommend (for example) giving property values more than 4 times higher than appraised values.


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SuburbanTurkey said:
I'm just bracing myself for more "justice is coming" type media fervor from the braindead pundits. I really thought the big wet fart that was the Mueller investigation would have been the end of that, but I'm sure every minor procedural update in this investigation is going to be trumpeted as the death knell for the Trumps.

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https://twitter.com/search?q=fifth&src=typed_query

This is the kind of nonsense I'm talking about.
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While I see most of those as flippant hyperbole, 3 or 4 posts prior you'd called them dirty criminals, a criminal family and a criminal president.
Pick a lane. [emoji2955]
 
Jim_MDP said:
While I see most of those as flippant hyperbole, 3 or 4 posts prior you'd called them dirty criminals, a criminal family and a criminal president.
Pick a lane. [emoji2955]
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I don't see how my two positions are irreconcilable.

The Trump fail-son taking the 5th is not indicative of much.

There's plenty of other, much better reasons to believe the whole family is involved in a variety of illegal and barely legal schemes. Paperwork showing the Trump company playing fast and loose with property valuations to either minimize taxation or to maximize collateral for loans are much more informative.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
There's plenty of other, much better reasons to believe the whole family is involved in a variety of illegal and barely legal schemes.
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I mean on one hand the Democrats are telling me Trump and Co are involved in shady dealings.

On the other hand Trump and Co are bragging about being involved in shady dealings.

I mean I don't know what to think. I'm so conflicted.
 
bruto said:
Exactly. He has every right to plead the fifth, but he pissed on that right before, and even if we acknowledge that he still has the right, I think we're entitled to point out the irony.
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Who exactly is "he"? From what I've gathered, it sounds like Donald was the one who said only the mafia pleads the 5th. But Eric is the one invoking it now. Yeah, I see the irony, but Eric still isn't Donald. So... meh.
 
Ziggurat said:
Who exactly is "he"? From what I've gathered, it sounds like Donald was the one who said only the mafia pleads the 5th. But Eric is the one invoking it now. Yeah, I see the irony, but Eric still isn't Donald. So... meh.
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He would be if he could be...
 
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