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Drinking is good fer you

bpesta22

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bpesta22
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I can't post the raw data because I am trying to get my crap published, but I'm finding interesting, moderate relationships with alcohol consumption and a host of good things. Examples include lower incidence of heart disease; high blood pressure; obesity; smoking; arthritis, stroke, etc., higher rates of exercising and eating fruits n veggies.

I am aware re correlation and cause, but does anyone know specifically how (if it does) alcohol might help lower rates of chronic disease?

Also, sadly, alcohol consumption does not co-vary with penis size.

New Hampshire (4.2 gallons per year per person aged 14+) and Nevada are the biggest boozers and Utah (1.34 gallons per) and West Virginia are the dryest.
 
I'm Type II diabetic, have been for more than 30 years.

Doctors want me to diet to lower my sugar.
Take pills to lower my sugar.
Take shots to lower my sugar.
Prick my finger four time a day, to lower my sugar.

But NOOOoo! Don't drink! It will lower your sugar!!!!

Anyway, I drink a large glass of my home made fruit wine, Loquat this week. I take it with dinner, it lowers my sugar about 25 mg/dl. Then I take the insulin later.

My theory as to why the alcohol lowers blood sugar, is that the breakdown by-product of alcohol is the same as the breakdown by-product of fats- acetaldehyde. It makes the body think that it is breaking down fats, there for it needs to get some sugar into cells as the primary fuel, which I must have run out of, since the body got to burning fats.

But I don't even play bio-chemist here.
 
Yes, and if you have it with lemonade it counts towards your fruit intake as well. ;)
 
I know there have been several studies about the effects of red wine, guinness, and other alcohols in regards to increased good health (or at least, decreased bad health), but I don't have links to any of them handy.

My grandparents have long been told by their doctor that having a glass of red wine with dinner is good for their heart health. So, I'm not really surprised :)
 
Off topic but... bpesta - wtf is going on in your avatar? Got a link for a larger pic? :D
 
Thanks for the comments-- interesting. I know nothing about the biology of all this, but I thought alcohol was close to sugar chemically (pardon my ignorance if I am way off).

Thanks too for the link Shadow.

My avatar was a very successful chain smokers for Obama campaign.

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Monthly binge drinking correlates -.49 with obesity by the 50 states. Perhaps binge drinking is a good way to lose weight?
 
bpesta22 said:
Thanks for the comments-- interesting. I know nothing about the biology of all this, but I thought alcohol was close to sugar chemically (pardon my ignorance if I am way off).
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IIRC, alcohol gets broken down into sugar. It is related (chemically), but your body has to do some work on it to break it to sugars. Dunno how that affects things, or why it would lower your blood sugar level, though.
 
As I recall, the number of drinks/health is a J-shaped curve. Three drinks per day is best, but a six pack everyday is as good for you as tee-total. I'll drink to that! ( I go with the pic shash ever,-ever, ever-hic-ery day)

Question is, What comes first- staying on an even keel , just feeling good all day, being sub-buzzed? Or are the folks who drink moderately less stressed anyhow, not worried about ill effects of having a couple?

Or was there selection bias of some kind- the heavy drinkers had already died off, along with those whose health was so bad they couldn't afford the ill effects of even one drink per day? You would end up with the group of moderate drinkers living the longest. I guess it's something to drink about for awhile.
 
Is the correlation as strong in non-european ethnicities? We did after all solve our problems with bad drinking water(cholera etc.) with the use of "small beer", piss-weak beer that is just strong enough to act as safe drinking water.
 
I think the thing with 'small beer' is that it was boiled, and drank before it could get reinfected. Not much fermented, really a thin gruel. Like drinking an oatmeal bath?
 
soylent said:
Is the correlation as strong in non-european ethnicities? We did after all solve our problems with bad drinking water(cholera etc.) with the use of "small beer", piss-weak beer that is just strong enough to act as safe drinking water.
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Interesting question-- my unit of analysis is the 50 US states so I can't break it down by a subset of that. But, I do have %black in each state. It correlates:

.55 with obesity; .29 with heart disease and -.30 with heavy drinking.

More Asians and Hispanics in a state leads to lower obesity and heart disease but has no effect on drinking.
 
casebro said:
I think the thing with 'small beer' is that it was boiled, and drank before it could get reinfected. Not much fermented, really a thin gruel. Like drinking an oatmeal bath?
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I thought it was made from the stuff beer had already been made from. Like using a tea bag a second time. I don't know this for a fact, just something I heard or read.
 
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