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Dogs that know

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos

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Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
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As part of the continuing saga of telepathic dogs begun by Rupert Sheldrake many years ago, a new Web site has started up:

http://dogsthatknow.com/

You can watch the first video, showing Tommy moving right over to his waiting spot as soon as his owner starts to return home. The dog has a telepathic link with his owner. They said that, and they wouldn't lie.

Then you can watch the second video. Tommy does it again.

~~ Paul
 
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Some years ago, the German Shepherd we had at the time appeared to know when I was coming home. My wife said he would always get excited and go to the door perhaps a minute before I arrived.
I suspected that he could simply hear my car, and was familiar with it's sound. I was driving a ratty old Maverick at the time.
My suspicions were confirmed when I finally broke down and bought a new muffler and exhaust system for the car.
The dog was completely surprised for several days. Didn't take him long, however; he soon became familiar with the new sounds and resumed his "prescient" habits.
 
This is such a strange claim at its base. I need to review the original data to see if I buy any of it. Has anyone here actually read the original protocols and results?
 
We've had many threads about Sheldrake's work. You can search a bit to find them. A little Googling will turn up some good stuff, too. As usual, there is a never-ending argument about the validity of the experiments. Richard Wiseman tried to replicate them. He got infinite crap about his protocol.

I wouldn't get too serious about your investigation, Mattdick. It'll just lead to heartache.

~~ Paul
 
Bikewer said:
Some years ago, the German Shepherd we had at the time appeared to know when I was coming home. My wife said he would always get excited and go to the door perhaps a minute before I arrived.
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This owner is supposedly at least ten miles away, so I doubt the dog can hear her car. I suppose it could have some kind of super-hearing we don't know about.

~~ Paul
 
Paul, I'm sure you're right, but I want to criticize it all but I need to know the science was bad before I do. I am a regular listener to Skeptiko and while Alex Sekeris wouldn't know good science if slept with Eugenie Scott, Rupert Sheldrake might have some merit.

I just want the original paper, I know a lot of the fight going on around it all.
 
arthwollipot, you have such scary eye-lazerz of DOOM! Have I ever told you that?
 
mattdick said:
Paul, I'm sure you're right, but I want to criticize it all but I need to know the science was bad before I do. I am a regular listener to Skeptiko and while Alex Sekeris wouldn't know good science if slept with Eugenie Scott, Rupert Sheldrake might have some merit.

I just want the original paper, I know a lot of the fight going on around it all.
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http://www.sheldrake.org/Articles&Papers/papers/animals/dog_video.html

http://www.sheldrake.org/Articles&Papers/papers/animals/
 
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okay, paper #1 "Listen to the Animals" down. Not very insightful. He quotes a ton of anecdotes and thinks conventional explanations for animals picking up on pre-earthquake tremors "seems...unconvincing". That's it, pretty much.

Oh and Brits used their dogs to predict super-sonic missiles.

He had a genuinely interesting idea for earthquake prediction -- allowing pet owners call in to just register that their animals were acting scared. We could see if it predicts earthquakes and react to it if it does. I like that idea.

Okay, on to paper #2: " Testing a Language - Using Parrot for Telepathy".
 
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I can't watch the video right now, but I wonder what happens when day light savings time is observed?
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
This owner is supposedly at least ten miles away, so I doubt the dog can hear her car. I suppose it could have some kind of super-hearing we don't know about.

~~ Paul
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Why can't dogs start getting excited at about the same time each day in expectation of some regular event?

I don't know if this happens, but it certainly is a possibility that should be explorered*.


In any case, I thought many of these animal tricks were traced to subtle cues (sometimes even unconscious) by owners or others, as proven by humans being able to guess what the dog would do solely by looking at the humans.


* Uhh, Internet Explorer-ed, that is. Yeah, that's the ticket!
 
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I think the dog is just doing it's routine and they are interpreting it as telepathy because they think telepathy is a reasonable explanation. It only goes to show they know nothing about dog behavior and the laws of physics.
 
Exactly what is the perceived benefit ( to society in general ) of a dog knowing in advance, that it's owner is on the way home ?

Other than the usual, getting the girlfriend or party-animal buddies out of the house before the owner returns ...
 
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