Does Jessica Lynch even exist?

Tmy

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I saw a news update on her. Shes going thru rehab. They talked about how muchteh story has changed . I guess she never was shot or stabbed, and that she neverfired her gun. I guess her Hummer crashed intoa tank and thats how she ended up with broken bones. Apparently she was well cared for bythe Iraqis.

The said the Army used spin (lies?) to make a better story.

WHo the hell knows what happend. Its kinda shady that she was used as this big ra-ra-ra lady Rambo propaganda tool.
 
Tmy said:
I saw a news update on her. Shes going thru rehab. They talked about how muchteh story has changed . I guess she never was shot or stabbed, and that she neverfired her gun. I guess her Hummer crashed intoa tank and thats how she ended up with broken bones. Apparently she was well cared for bythe Iraqis.

The said the Army used spin (lies?) to make a better story.

WHo the hell knows what happend. Its kinda shady that she was used as this big ra-ra-ra lady Rambo propaganda tool.

So true,

we'll never know what hit her in Iraq and she'll never know what hit her back in the US.

Poor girl...

Zee
 
I was watching one of the new channels last night (don't remember which one) and they had on a print reporter who's story was about to be published.

She reported that there was an indication that Lynch had been "mistreated" while in custody. What was so frustrating was not so much the lack of specific information in the word "mistreated," but that neither the reporter nor the other talking head questioning her would admit that they didn't have any worthwhile information. They were just pretending that the vague news that she had been "mistreated" was news at all.
 
Tmy said:
I saw a news update on her. Shes going thru rehab. They talked about how muchteh story has changed . I guess she never was shot or stabbed, and that she neverfired her gun. I guess her Hummer crashed intoa tank and thats how she ended up with broken bones. Apparently she was well cared for bythe Iraqis.

The said the Army used spin (lies?) to make a better story.

WHo the hell knows what happend. Its kinda shady that she was used as this big ra-ra-ra lady Rambo propaganda tool.

I would like the Jessica Lynch story clarified because the story I have been reading about it does not match the leftist media story.

David Hackworth, a very respected and the most decorated Vietnam Veteran Commissioned Officer in the US Army mentioned in a column he wrote recently that Jessica Lynch's unit never engaged the enemy when they came across the Iraqis.

Hackworth said that the Iraqis were in two pickup trucks and Lynch's unit took a wrong turn and ran right into the enemy. So it was possibly there were only two squads of enemy soldiers (14 men) they ran into.

But here is what I want confirmation on. Hackworth said in his article that the commander of the unit was there and ran away with as many troops under his/her command that he/she could--while the rest of the soldiers just surrendered and were executed on the spot or taken prisoner.

Jessica Lynch has those answers.

Read the article and I quote Hackworth-"No question the 507th Maintenance Company could’ve used the “more sweat on the training field, less blood on the battlefield” infantry training on that shameful day when its nine-vehicle convoy of ordnance troops took a wrong turn and bumped into a small enemy force in two pick-up trucks. Gun for gun, the 507th outnumbered the Fedayeen but still got clobbered to the tune of nine dead and five prisoners of war. Few 507th soldiers fired back because their weapons were clogged with dust. Hello? A soldier’s weapon on a battlefield clogged with dust?! And those who weren’t killed or captured straightaway ran liked scared jack rabbits – led, sadly, by their fleet-footed captain."--end quote.

JK
 
Those Iraqi doctors get closer to martyrdom every day. Those scumbags asked for 10k for news of her whereabouts. People pretend like Jessica was at some iraqi version of mt. sinai. It just ain't so.
 
Hey, JK. What is it with Hack? Everytime I see him on tv he appears to be half in the bag. You notice that? Also that his appearences lately are few and far between (I mean even during the war).
 
Ed said:
Hey, JK. What is it with Hack? Everytime I see him on tv he appears to be half in the bag. You notice that? Also that his appearences lately are few and far between (I mean even during the war).

Hackworth doesn't get the media time he deserves. In my opinion I think he is seen by as agitator by military brass because he doesn't cut them any slack. Hackworth is into preparing soldiers for war--realistic training--and he doesn't hesitiate to critique reductions of standards.

Had I not been to war myself I probably wouldn't even read his columns but since I have I know how important what he is trying to do is.

I think in reference to not seeing him on TV very much or a reduction in his columns, etc, it could be that he needed to take a break or perhaps he went overseas to visit soldiers. He does that a lot.

He isn't getting any younger either. I don't know how old he is but he has to be in his 60's by now.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:


Hackworth doesn't get the media time he deserves. In my opinion I think he is seen by as agitator by military brass because he doesn't cut them any slack. Hackworth is into preparing soldiers for war--realistic training--and he doesn't hesitiate to critique reductions of standards.

Had I not been to war myself I probably wouldn't even read his columns but since I have I know how important what he is trying to do is.

I think in reference to not seeing him on TV very much or a reduction in his columns, etc, it could be that he needed to take a break or perhaps he went overseas to visit soldiers. He does that a lot.

He isn't getting any younger either. I don't know how old he is but he has to be in his 60's by now.

JK

I like him, personnaly. He appears to be on top of things and really likes the subject matter.
 
corplinx said:
Those Iraqi doctors get closer to martyrdom every day. Those scumbags asked for 10k for news of her whereabouts..

According to your sources, anyway.
 
Answers? They may be hard to come by. After all Jessica "has no memory" of the events. Convienence or trama I dont know.

That whore rescue stinks of propaganda. Why the hell was it being videotaped? Is that normal special ops practice.

Seems like more hoodwinking of the US public.
 
Ed said:


I like him, personnaly. He appears to be on top of things and really likes the subject matter.

What I like about Hackworth is he is honest. War situations have to be looked at factually because military units take lessons home with them from war to retrain deficiencies and apply them to new future war situations.

If Lynch's unit didn't fight back against the enemy, that is an issue that has to be looked at and fixed. When you have an entire company of soldiers surrendering to 14 enemy soldiers, that is unacceptable.

The audacity for the leftist media and militant feminist groups to spin that case for pro-feminist causes is fatal logic on the battelfield, mythology that must be confronted and dispelled immediately.

We do not tolerate it with folks who don't serve and claim they are war veterans (veteran frauds) and we sure as hell don't need to open up that can of worms inside the military either.

JK
 
Convoy battle may be the real deal.

According to CNN, the convoy battle information was just released and includes details that the company of soldiers fought for over 90 minutes at the ambush point.

If that information turns out to be correct then those soldiers deserve the highest recognition, especially the ones that lost their lives there.

Libraries and schools need to be named after them in their honor. Even highways.

JK
 
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...6,0,1272981.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

Down a two-lane blacktop rolling through dry farmlands, just a mile or two from the ambush site, lies the Iraqi military hospital of Nasiriyah. It was where Lynch was first treated after her capture.

Today, the three-story structure is a gutted ruin, charred from fires. Mangled brown Iraqi military vehicles fill the parking lot.

On the morning of Lynch's capture, the military hospital was a beehive, with fleeing, fighting and wounded Iraqi troops coming and going as U.S. troops swept into Iraq from Kuwait.

Adnan Mushafafawi, a brigadier in the Iraqi army medical corps, a member of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's Baath Party and the director of the hospital, said a policeman brought in two female U.S. soldiers about 10 a.m.

"They were both unconscious," he said. They were severely wounded, he recalled, exhibiting symptoms of shock and trauma. He read their dog tags: They were Lynch and her friend and Piestewa.

"Miss Lori," Mushafafawi said, "had bruises all over her face. She was bleeding from the eyes. A severe head wound." He said Piestewa died soon after arriving at the hospital.

Did either soldier display evidence she had been stabbed or shot? "No, no," he said. Pressed, he later answered, "Maybe Miss Lori, maybe shot."

Mushafafawi said he and his medical staff cut away Lynch's uniform and threw her clothes on the floor. She lay on a gurney, almost naked, as Iraqi military doctors and nurses worked on her, he said.

Lynch had multiple fractures, Mushafafawi said, and a head injury that he described as minor. He said the staff sutured the wound. She was given blood and intravenous fluids, he said. The staff took X-rays, partly set her fractures and applied splints and plaster casts to them.

"If we had left her without treatment, she would have died," Mushafafawi said.

The military doctor said Lynch briefly regained consciousness at his hospital, but appeared disoriented. "She was very scared," he said. "We reassured her that she would be safe now."

But when Mushafafawi suggested to Lynch that he might attempt to better set her leg fracture, Lynch told him, "No, she didn't want us to do anything more," he recalled.

"She was here two, three hours," the doctor said and then transferred by military ambulance to Nasiriyah's main civilian facility, Saddam Hussein General Hospital across town.

Mushafafawi said he assumed his military hospital probably would be attacked by U.S. forces, who two days later overran the compound. He said that it was his decision to transfer Lynch and that no military or intelligence officers accompanied her. Piestewa's body also was transported to Saddam Hussein hospital.

Mushafafawi said he did not know what happened to Piestewa or Lynch between their capture shortly after 7 a.m. and their appearance at his hospital about three hours later.

"It was substandard care, by American standards, we know this, okay? But Jessica got the best we could offer," said Harith Hassona, one of two young resident physicians who assisted in her care.

After several days of treatment, Lynch's condition improved. She was moved from the emergency room to an empty cardiac care unit, where she had her own room, and was tended by two female nurses.

But she was in pain, and given powerful drugs. She ate, sporadically, asking for juice and crackers. The staff said she was offered Iraqi hospital food, but refused. "She wanted to see things opened in front of her, then she would eat," said Furat Hussein, one of her nurses.

Her mental state varied from hour to hour, according to the Iraqi nurses and doctors. "She would joke with us sometimes, and sometimes she would weep," Hussein said.

"She didn't want to be left alone and she didn't want strangers to care for her," said Anmar Uday, one of the two primary care physicians. "One time, she asked me, 'Why are you standing in front of me? Are you gong to hurt me?' We said no, we're here to help you."

"Crying all the time," recalled Khalida Shnan, a nurse who wept herself when describing how she tried to comfort Lynch by singing to her night and rubbing talc on her shoulders. Mahdi Khafaji, an orthopedic surgeon, said he knew that sooner or later U.S. troops would come for Lynch and "we wanted to show the Americans that we are human beings."

Khafaji said treating Lynch well was in their self-interest: "She was more important at that moment than Saddam Hussein." He added, "You could not help but feeling sorry for her. A young girl. An American. A prisoner. We did our best. Believe me, she was the only orthopedic surgery I performed." Khafaji suggested that as he worked on Lynch, ordinary Iraqis went without treatment, and some may have died.
 
http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-scheer20may20,0,4093805.column

But where the manipulation of this saga really gets ugly is in the premeditated manufacture of the rescue itself, which stains those who have performed real acts of bravery, whether in war or peacetime.

Eight days after her capture, American media trumpeted the military's story that Lynch was saved by Special Forces that stormed the hospital and, in the face of heavy hostile fire, managed to scoop her up and helicopter her out.

However, according to the BBC, which interviewed the hospital's staff, the truth appears to be that not only had Iraqi forces abandoned the area before the rescue effort but that the hospital's staff had informed the U.S. of this and made arrangements two days before the raid to turn Lynch over to the Americans. "But as the ambulance, with Pvt. Lynch inside, approached the checkpoint, American troops opened fire, forcing it to flee back to the hospital. The Americans had almost killed their prize catch," the BBC reported.

"We were surprised," Dr. Anmar Uday told the BBC about the supposed rescue. "There was no military, there were no soldiers in the hospital. It was like a Hollywood film. [The U.S. forces] cried 'Go, go, go,' with guns and blanks without bullets, blanks and the sound of explosions," Uday said. "They made a show for the American attack on the hospital — [like] action movies [starring] Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan."

The footage from the raid, shot not by journalists but by soldiers with night-vision cameras, was fed in real time to the central command in Qatar. The video was artfully edited by the Pentagon and released as proof that a battle to free Lynch had occurred when it had not.

This fabrication has already been celebrated by an A&E special and will soon be an NBC movie. The Lynch rescue story — a made-for-TV bit of official propaganda — will probably survive as the war's most heroic moment, despite proving as fictitious as the stated rationales for the invasion itself.

If the movies, books and other renditions of "saving Private Lynch" were to be honestly presented, it would expose this caper as merely one in a series of egregious lies marketed to us by the Bush administration.
 
I find this whole story just unfathomable and absolutely bizarre.

The Military says she has amnesia about much of the events which transpired. Then, I saw her father on TV saying, "There's nothing wrong with her memory."

Truly, does she even exist?
 
Re: Re: Does Jessica Lynch even exist?

Jedi Knight said:

Read the article and I quote Hackworth-"No question the 507th Maintenance Company could’ve used the “more sweat on the training field, less blood on the battlefield” infantry training on that shameful day when its nine-vehicle convoy of ordnance troops took a wrong turn and bumped into a small enemy force in two pick-up trucks. Gun for gun, the 507th outnumbered the Fedayeen but still got clobbered to the tune of nine dead and five prisoners of war. Few 507th soldiers fired back because their weapons were clogged with dust. Hello? A soldier’s weapon on a battlefield clogged with dust?! And those who weren’t killed or captured straightaway ran liked scared jack rabbits – led, sadly, by their fleet-footed captain."--end quote.

JK

Its an enormous concern to me that 'non-combat' units appear to forget all their combat training as soon as they begin their specialist training. All soldiers should be infanteers first and specialists second.
 
Hrm, the US special forces who took the hospital chalked up hostile casualties outside the hospital. The doctors (who used hostiles to escort the ambulance they used to get to make a money for info offer about lynch) say they had fled.

Its sad to see so many people buying this malarkey.
 
Im starting to think the whole Iraq thing is just lies on top of likes.

The Lynch story, WMD info, Iraqi freedom, all of it is bullshat. I dont trust anything that comes out of the Whitehouse
 

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