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Dick Cheney thinks Obama is worst President of his lifetime

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"I look at Barack Obama and I see the worst president of my lifetime, without question," Cheney told journalist James Rosen. "I used to have significant criticism of Jimmy Carter, but compared to Barack Obama and the damage he is doing to the nation—it’s a tragedy."
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My first instinct was to think he's lying. But he's actually probably convinced himself. Much easier for him to handle than the truth - that the Bush Administration was the worst in his lifetime largely because Cheney was calling the shots. And that Obama turned around the economic disaster inherited from Bush/Cheney.

Obama being ranked last by Cheney is a great sign for Obama's legacy. Cheney is always extremely wrong.

Cheney said he could go on "for hours" about all the ways Obama undermined Bush's accomplishments. Citing Obama's alleged foreign-policy mistakes, Cheney said the president "absolutely" rolled back Bush's record, either intentionally or inadvertently
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OK, good. That's why he was elected.

United States leadership in the world produces a far more peaceful, less hostile world and greater prosperity. The U.S. has to play a leadership role. And it’s going to take a lot to rebuild the damage that has been done over the past few years, because we’ve actively conveyed to the world the notion—this president has—that we no longer believe that.
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I'm sure Obama doesn't believe that previous "leadership" produced a better world given that it actually made it much worse. Neocon Americans are probably the only people in the world that believe the Bush/Cheney foreign policy had a positive impact on the world. Which just means that we should never listen to them again.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dick...--in-a-playboy-interview-2015-3#ixzz3UyedtF8z
 
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16.5 said:
Well, you didn't counter his astute comments on Libya and Syria, just by way of example.
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So what?

Cheney is a war criminal who lied his way into a war that was one of the worst foreign policy decisions in history. And has yet to admit error.

But if you're with him, fine with me.
 
Tony Stark said:
So what?

Cheney is a war criminal who lied his way into a war that was one of the worst foreign policy decisions in history. And has yet to admit error.

But if you're with him, fine with me.
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I think his only error was relying on Clinton era intelligence. I don't want to get to be that CT guy, but I always wondered if Clinton faked the intelligence he relied on in operation desert fox in order to cover up his Oval Office dalliances.

Well makes a good story, and that story is called wag the dog. True story or true-ish story?
 
Who was it the other day that when asked what he thought of the Cheney interview in Playboy said, "I only get playboy for the pictures"? :)
 
16.5 said:
I think his only error was relying on Clinton era intelligence. I don't want to get to be that CT guy, but I always wondered if Clinton faked the intelligence he relied on in operation desert fox in order to cover up his Oval Office dalliances.

Well makes a good story, and that story is called wag the dog. True story or true-ish story?
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No, it isn't. And I suspect you know that but think the cheap shot is cute.
 
Olowkow said:
Who was it the other day that when asked what he thought of the Cheney interview in Playboy said, "I only get playboy for the pictures"? :)
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I don't even understand why Playboy is still published. Porn is widely available on the Internet and if Playboy doesn't have anything better to do than ask Dick Cheney what his political opinions are, then why is it still in business?
 
16.5 said:
I think his only error was relying on Clinton era intelligence.
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You're wrong. They decided to invade Iraq and then had the CIA find intel that justified it. Cheney himself went to met with analysts. The simple fact of the matter is that what was reported to the American people was designed to make the strongest possible case for war, not to reflect the truth.

Former CIA analyst Melvin Goodman responded on Democracy Now! by describing Cheney’s speech as the "longest statement of disinformation that I think the American government has distributed to the American people."

Goodman went on to say, "For Dick Cheney to recite those charges we all know now not to be true adds to the terrible politicization of intelligence that’s created a scandal in the intelligence community unlike anything I ever saw in my 24 years in the C.I.A. that includes the period of Vietnam, the period of the intelligence failure on the Soviet Union, and the incredibly contentious disputes over arms control."
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For Dick Cheney to talk about the intelligence community speaking with confidence is incredibly fallacious. There was no confidence within the intelligence community...

...That brings you back to Dick Cheney. Who was the one person in the administration who was pushing the reconstitution of nuclear weapons and the nuclear program so hard? It’s always been Vice President Dick Cheney. Because that’s the most compelling argument you could make about going to war. That’s what would terrify the American people. The President talked about the mushroom cloud from nuclear weapons. Condy Rice, very dramatically talked about the mushroom cloud from nuclear weapons. You know of all of the fraudulent aspects of the reasons why we went to war, the worst was the reconstitution of the nuclear capability because no serious scientist or analyst in this city or at the United Nations believed any of it.
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http://www.democracynow.org/2003/7/25/ex_cia_agent_on_cheney_iraq
 
Whenever Cheney makes a remark I stop to consider the question: who is more credible on the topic, Dick Cheney or Courtney Love? In the question of assessing good presidenting, I determine that Courtney Love's opinion is weightier by 420 opinion points. If Cheney wants to sell me on this notion, he's going to need to get Courtney Love to make a statement to the press in agreement.
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
A much worse president would have been if Dubya had died in office.
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You don't have to get hypothetical. During about the first 6 years of W's 2 terms, Cheney was de facto president -- and undoubtedly the worst in his lifetime.
 
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