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chris epic

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Coping With the Academic Advent of Godlessness and Soullessness from Logic

Unification is a word that represents my understanding of myself when I conclude the implausibility of dualism. I am one machine. My mind is in fact my brain and my brain is in fact apart of my body. Like my computer is one machine, though made of various different parts and capacity, my computer is still one machine: a machine that computes. I purchased it as a single product with a single price tag. My body, though made of various different parts and functions, is one body: my thoughts don't cause action, they are action. But where do I draw the line? What is to say that like my brain is an individual organ of my body, so my body is an individual organ of my family: my family is one machine, though made of different parts and functions, it is one body. My family is an organ of the human species...the human species and organ of the animal body....of the earth....of the solar system....of the universe.

Socially, Americans are primarily raised under a system called "independence training," this is similar throughout the western world, where the majority, maybe even all of the philosophy at least in this class comes from. I are raised to be dependent upon our family only for a limited time, trained to provide and sustain ourselves throughout our adolescence so we can "make it" by ourselves when we come to maturity, unlike dependence training found primarily in agricultural societies that depend on the family "sticking around" to work the fields and perpetuate the family's land, occupation, and food generation....

This "independence mentality" may lend itself to the mentality that human beings are individual, separate and sole mechanisms with their own perception and sole position in the universe....an independent machine built by nature to perform an independent function.

But an individual machine cannot stand alone...can never be independent....is one with everything else, a smaller part of a larger machine: the universe. I am to the Universe as a quark is to my body.

Earth cannot stand alone: the sun and the other planets hold Earth in its place with the gravity that is subsequent to the presence of our solar system...hence "system" and the solar system is held in place by the gravity of the galaxy.....

What if an asteroid wiped out the entire human species on earth? Would that have a negative impact on the Universe? What if scientists took one quark out of my body, would that affect my performance or function?

Just now I scraped away a cell on my hand...I "appear" to be functioning the same as I was before, minus a few skin cells....but eventually, my body will have regenerated skin cells in the place of those gone absent....just as the Earth will probably generate another dominant species like humans on Earth eventually (assuming we are dominant).

God, the spirit, the soul, and the mind have been logically removed from our understanding, weather we chose to subscribe or continue to "believe." That is our prerogative. But I also keep in mind that just because something has been logically synthesized does not ever solidify any absolute truths. Any scientist will tell you that NOTHING is CERTAIN, just remember that.

What is certain is that you and I are apart of a community- this community is apart of a universe that is proactive and creative. We are reminiscent of that make-up, live by it. We have an opportunity to understand that we will leave an imprint on this universe- on this earth, in our communities. Even if we are not here for long, we can leave behind a legacy that is proactive or destructive, dependent on the choices I make.

In a Godless universe, with a soulless body- maybe we can find comfort that we are apart of a giant, mysterious universe that promotes creation and life, even if by means of destruction. I find comfort that this measly quark in the system of the universe could never fully comprehend or understand that mystery, that no word, especially in the barbaric English tongue, expanded only by borrowed, more sophisticated Indo-European languages, could ever illustrate the truth of our existence or the "why," but that I can find certainty that I am apart of something bigger than life, like my quark is apart of me. And even though I am here only as long as it takes the universe to scrape me off, maybe I will have made choices that reflected the dynamic of this proactive universe, or at least I was apart of one hell of a ride.
 
The individual self has zero meaning in your universe.

If a raindrop should speak, then it is an echo of the cloud from whence it fell.
How dare it proclaim itself as the essence of it's own thoughts.
 
I find it amazing that, given enough billions of years, hydrogen atoms will arrange to form my brain and give rise to my thoughts, including said amazement.

Thanks Chris, that was an interesting read.

Steven
 
I find it amazing that, given enough billions of years, hydrogen atoms will arrange to form my brain and give rise to my thoughts, including said amazement.

Thanks Chris, that was an interesting read.

Steven
I guess we can say that hydrogen has had a very interesting existence... and has come up with many theories.
 
The individual self has zero meaning in your universe.

If a raindrop should speak, then it is an echo of the cloud from whence it fell.
How dare it proclaim itself as the essence of it's own thoughts.

Dude, whats wrong? Dont feel suddenly so superior anymore? I wasn't trying to be a downer. In fact, I wrote this in response to the feelings that came to me after being in an intro to philosophy class for the past month and a half.

We are meaningful and meaningless individuals, both. Another thing I've observed in "western thought" is linear thought and "either, or" conceptualism. BUt the universe is far too comlpex for us to limit events, functions, or parts as either this way or that way.

Logically, me scraping a few skin cells away wont significantly interfere with me or change me. Does that mean that skin cells are meaningless? If that were the case we wouldn't need skin at all, right? I'm looking at an individual in its relationship to a community and their reciprocity- it's cyclical, not linear.

The question is, once we remove God and an everlasting spirit from reasoning, logically, what IS the point? I'm surmounting that our very existance and our relationship to the Universe, what EVER it happens to be IS the point- I find alot of meaning in that, I'm sorry if you dont.

Cheers!
 
Chris, if you haven't checked out a lifegazer thread I suggest you do so. It will answer many questions about his posts in this thread.
 
Chris, if you haven't checked out a lifegazer thread I suggest you do so. It will answer many questions about his posts in this thread.

Chris, I also suggest you refrain from eating anything for at least an hour before reading any of LG's stuff. Oh, and wear a helmet.

Steven
 

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