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Democracy is in trouble....

dudalb

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Looks as though the UK is going to have a Trump clone as the next PM..since Johnson embraces authoritarian politics and will probably be backed by enough in his party to survive for the future.
ANybody who frequents this website knows that I think in general about Conspiracy theories,but I am really wondering if Putin is not trying to engineer a world wide take down of democracy to ensure a Russian Hegemony .He has found democracy's weak spot....right wing populism .
 
dudalb said:
Looks as though the UK is going to have a Trump clone as the next PM..since Johnson embraces authoritarian politics and will probably be backed by enough in his party to survive for the future.
ANybody who frequents this website knows that I think in general about Conspiracy theories,but I am really wondering if Putin is not trying to engineer a world wide take down of democracy to ensure a Russian Hegemony .He has found democracy's weak spot....right wing populism .
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I don't think it's specifically right wing populism, just happens to be at this time. It's the same weakness democracy has always had, and that most systems have tried to put measures in to control: mob mentality.
 
Hellbound said:
I don't think it's specifically right wing populism, just happens to be at this time. It's the same weakness democracy has always had, and that most systems have tried to put measures in to control: mob mentality.
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And it being funded and exploited from Moscow, IMHO.
First time I am more or less embracing a conspiracy theory.
But the sad thing is that you are seeing the mob mentality also beginning to take hold on the militant left;look , inthis forum, on the number of people on the left who are OK to basically deny freedom of speech to anybody they consider to be "fascist".
I would not be surprised to find out that the far left is getting a little cash from Putin. The more powerful the two extremes grow, the better for him.
 
dudalb said:
Looks as though the UK is going to have a Trump clone as the next PM..since Johnson embraces authoritarian politics and will probably be backed by enough in his party to survive for the future.
ANybody who frequents this website knows that I think in general about Conspiracy theories,but I am really wondering if Putin is not trying to engineer a world wide take down of democracy to ensure a Russian Hegemony .He has found democracy's weak spot....right wing populism .
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What do you anticipate he will do to get rid of the democratic processes that form the basis of the British system of government?

Is he going to cancel elections?
 
I share your pet CT that Putin might be trying to do this. But is he successful so far? Probably not very, though I don't think we can ignore the powerful influence of RT and Sputnik on the narratives of world events.

And yeah it's populism in general he seems to want....

for any country but his own of course.

The drawbacks of representative democracy were always there though.
 
dudalb said:
And it being funded and exploited from Moscow, IMHO.
First time I am more or less embracing a conspiracy theory.
But the sad thing is that you are seeing the mob mentality also beginning to take hold on the militant left;look , inthis forum, on the number of people on the left who are OK to basically deny freedom of speech to anybody they consider to be "fascist".
I would not be surprised to find out that the far left is getting a little cash from Putin. The more powerful the two extremes grow, the better for him.
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Well, where is your evidence? I think it is nonsense. The left is just moving farther to the left. It's that simple. Most think that fascism is right and communism is left, but there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between Hitler and Stalin, so there you go.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Well, where is your evidence? I think it is nonsense. The left is just moving farther to the left. It's that simple. Most think that fascism is right and communism is left, but there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between Hitler and Stalin, so there you go.
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Evidence right here:


'The parting on the left, is now the parting on the right'. - Who
 
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dudalb said:
And it being funded and exploited from Moscow, IMHO.
First time I am more or less embracing a conspiracy theory.
But the sad thing is that you are seeing the mob mentality also beginning to take hold on the militant left;look , inthis forum, on the number of people on the left who are OK to basically deny freedom of speech to anybody they consider to be "fascist".
I would not be surprised to find out that the far left is getting a little cash from Putin. The more powerful the two extremes grow, the better for him.
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Human nature. Even a non-violent person feels and urge to push back when they get shoved.

Tribalism reigns.
 
dudalb said:
Looks as though the UK is going to have a Trump clone as the next PM..since Johnson embraces authoritarian politics and will probably be backed by enough in his party to survive for the future.
ANybody who frequents this website knows that I think in general about Conspiracy theories,but I am really wondering if Putin is not trying to engineer a world wide take down of democracy to ensure a Russian Hegemony .He has found democracy's weak spot....right wing populism .
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Johnson is a populist pompous idiot, but he is no Trump.
 
It's not a crazy idea that other populist are looking at the Trump phenomenon in the US and thinking it's worth a try to replicate it.

"Trump is gonna have political imitators" shouldn't shock anybody.
 
dudalb said:
Looks as though the UK is going to have a Trump clone as the next PM..since Johnson embraces authoritarian politics and will probably be backed by enough in his party to survive for the future.
ANybody who frequents this website knows that I think in general about Conspiracy theories,but I am really wondering if Putin is not trying to engineer a world wide take down of democracy to ensure a Russian Hegemony .He has found democracy's weak spot....right wing populism .
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Or maybe it's left wing lunacy that is driving everyone else to the breaking point? Can only speak for myself but that is a big part of it for me.
 
JoeMorgue said:
It's not a crazy idea that other populist are looking at the Trump phenomenon in the US and thinking it's worth a try to replicate it.

"Trump is gonna have political imitators" shouldn't shock anybody.
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Johnson was around in politics doing his brand of "thing" long before Trump.
 
mgidm86 said:
Or maybe it's left wing lunacy that is driving everyone else to the breaking point? Can only speak for myself but that is a big part of it for me.
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hahaha.

As the right go further to the right of course you think the left are getting more extreme.
 
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