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definitive study on IQ and religious belief?

bpesta22

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bpesta22
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I'm gonna try running one. Measures include:

The Wonderlic (12 minute paper and pencil IQ test).

Tests of basic cognition (reaction time and inspection time)

Overclaiming (a signal detection based measure of familiarity with general world knowledge; correlates pretty nicely with IQ).

Surveys measuring spirituality, religious fundamentalism and scriptural literalism.

Goal is to run about 400 people, since heathens seem to be way under-represented.

This likely won't help me get tenure as it's wholly unrelated to my area, but I see it as a hobby.

Predictions?

Also, some (one person?!) were interested in the study I was doing on race, basic cognition and IQ. It's now under review at Intelligence. If anyone's interested still, I can post the reviews when it gets rejected:) This will likely take months though...
 
I doubt IQ corellates with judgement. I know plenty of intellectual fools. I think you will find lots of folk with high IQ and beliefs in the supernatural. Darn it.
 
case-- I think you are likely right. But I have measures of "spirituality" which perhaps might show little correlation; whereas, the scriptural literalism stuff might.
 
Well as long as you're doing it, how about throwing in some other stuff to see if IQ correlates with smoking habits, gambling, wealth, obesity, etc.

What about so-called "social intelligence" and "emotional intelligence"?
 
TGHO-- thanks for the link; I was aware of only some of the info there.

Pup: I remember that IQ correlates inversely with smoking, and it's very well replicated that IQ correlates with wealth-- SES-- at about .33.

I'm not a big fan of neither mutliple nor emotional IQ.
 
bpesta22 said:
I'm gonna try running one. Measures include:

The Wonderlic (12 minute paper and pencil IQ test).

Tests of basic cognition (reaction time and inspection time)

Overclaiming (a signal detection based measure of familiarity with general world knowledge; correlates pretty nicely with IQ).

Surveys measuring spirituality, religious fundamentalism and scriptural literalism.

Goal is to run about 400 people, since heathens seem to be way under-represented.

This likely won't help me get tenure as it's wholly unrelated to my area, but I see it as a hobby.

Predictions?
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Sounds interesting. Good luck with this. If there are significant expenses, perhaps you can set up a paypal donation site.
 
casebro said:
I doubt IQ corellates with judgement. I know plenty of intellectual fools. I think you will find lots of folk with high IQ and beliefs in the supernatural. Darn it.
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It would be interesting to see how many of them are crypto-skeptics though. For example Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
 
Dave1001 said:
It would be interesting to see how many of them are crypto-skeptics though. For example Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
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Is "crypto-skeptics" a code word for "people who disagree with my baseless claims which I none the less desperately cling to like a drowing man clutches jetsam?"
 
Are you controlling for socio-economic status and level of education?
 
thanks Dave! No expense really; just time.

Tanja: They will be college students, so educational level will be narrow, and I will code what grade they're in. Not measuring SES though.

More just exploring versus explaining.
 
bpesta22 said:
Pup: I remember that IQ correlates inversely with smoking...
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I have read studies which have indicated this as well. While there are smokers of both high and low IQ's it found that the lower one's IQ the higher the probability of them smoking.

It would also be logical to think that perhaps since smoking is something people find calming or reassuring that those who smoke might tend to be the type who make more emotional decisions or are more prone to anxiety and are not able to deal with it as well.


This obviously makes me a horrible person, but I had thought before that it was unfortionate that smoking rarely kills anyone before they have a chance to reproduce because it would be a very good evolutionary influence. But again... that makes me a bad person, so... just pretend I didn't say that
 
DRBUZZ0 said:
This obviously makes me a horrible person, but I had thought before that it was unfortionate that smoking rarely kills anyone before they have a chance to reproduce because it would be a very good evolutionary influence. But again... that makes me a bad person, so... just pretend I didn't say that
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:boxedin:
 
DRBUZZ0 said:
I have read studies which have indicated this as well. While there are smokers of both high and low IQ's it found that the lower one's IQ the higher the probability of them smoking.

It would also be logical to think that perhaps since smoking is something people find calming or reassuring that those who smoke might tend to be the type who make more emotional decisions or are more prone to anxiety and are not able to deal with it as well.


This obviously makes me a horrible person, but I had thought before that it was unfortionate that smoking rarely kills anyone before they have a chance to reproduce because it would be a very good evolutionary influence. But again... that makes me a bad person, so... just pretend I didn't say that
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All I'll say to your last paragraph is that my parents smoke.
 
LostAngeles said:
All I'll say to your last paragraph is that my parents smoke.
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Generally good for the collective species != good for each individual. Obviously it's not cut and dry. it's a trend which would tend to have an influence over generations, with... well you all know that. But it's not like it even works so eh...
 
DRBUZZ0 said:
Generally good for the collective species != good for each individual. Obviously it's not cut and dry. it's a trend which would tend to have an influence over generations, with... well you all know that. But it's not like it even works so eh...
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So you're saying that smoking is entirely genetic?
 
Yea, let's get rid of the smokers Buzz0, in fact, let's delete them from history entirely because they're so daft..

Let's begin with, uhm..

  • Albert Einstein
  • Thomas Edison
  • Winston Churchill
  • Bertrand Russell
  • Walt Disney
  • Jean-Paul Satre
  • Robert Oppenheimer
  • Sigmund Freud
  • Niels Bohr
  • Kurt Vonnegut
  • J.J.R. Tolkien
  • Sean Penn (mentioned here because I dated his cousin, Desiree, like two months ago, mehe)
..And etc. etc., let's delete them from history dudio, because we all know that all the unbiased research that has gone into smoking is entirely correct. Carry on :)
 
DRBUZZ0 said:
Generally good for the collective species != good for each individual. Obviously it's not cut and dry. it's a trend which would tend to have an influence over generations, with... well you all know that. But it's not like it even works so eh...
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I don't think I'm quite clear on your response here, would you mind explaining, please?
 
Thomas said:
Yea, let's get rid of the smokers Buzz0, in fact, let's delete them from history entirely because they're so daft..

Let's begin with, uhm..
  • Albert Einstein
  • Thomas Edison
  • Winston Churchill
  • Bertrand Russell
  • Walt Disney
  • Jean-Paul Satre
  • Robert Oppenheimer
  • Sigmund Freud
  • Niels Bohr
  • Kurt Vonnegut
  • J.J.R. Tolkien
  • Sean Penn (mentioned here because I dated his cousin, Desiree, like two months ago, mehe)
..And etc. etc., let's delete them from history dudio, because we all know that all the unbiased research that has gone into smoking is entirely correct. Carry on :)
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You forgot:
Alexander Graham Bell
Edwin Hubble
Helmut Schmidt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
King Hussein of Jordan
John F Kennedy (who loved his little cigars)
George Orwell
Oscar Wilde "A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want?"
C.S. Lewis
Christopher Lee
James Dean
Liz Taylor
Tom Waits
Sophia Loren
Kate Winslet (she prefers to roll her own)
Pavarotti
John Wayne
Johnny Cash
David Carradine
Sinatra
Robbie Williams
Pierce Brosnan
Marylin Monroe
John Lennon
Frank Zappa
Vincent Van Gogh
Alfred Hitchcock
Maurice Ravel
Monet
Pablo Picasso
Piet Mondrain
Aaron Spelling


Bastards all! Obviously of a low IQ.

 
hehe.. Buzz0, delete that Einstein sig, because he's an idiot you know! Who should be evolutionary rejected.
 
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