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Dear Leader makes an appearance

I hate to admit it, but when the headline said "appears at memorial" I assumed it meant Michael Jackson's.

They would have made an interesting couple, I think.
 
I hate to admit it, but when the headline said "appears at memorial" I assumed it meant Michael Jackson's.

They would have made an interesting couple, I think.

Michael Jackson, Kim Jong-Il, and Uri Geller.

The trifecta.
 
Dear Leader is looking like he might be joining Great Leader in the near future.
 
He sure does not look like the poster child for health in the latest video we have. He looks frail..very frail.
 
He has had a stroke, and there are rumors that he has one foot on a banana peel, one on the grave. He has his third son selected as successor. The fear is he will go out with a bang.
 
I'm concerned that his last orders will be to start an all-out attack.

I really hope not because the majority of my family lives in South Korea and ole Fancy Hair has stated his intentions to turn Seoul, my hometown of 15 years, into a "sea of fire".

I think it'll be a quiet transition. What does he have to gain from going ******* on everything?

In the back of my mind I hope that he does try something crazy. I would love nothing more than to be pushing North of the 38th in an Abrams and not stopping till the Yalu. The North's military is in shambles, it'd be easier than the initial invasion of Iraq.
 
Frankly, I worry about nukes and EMP. I have a daughter and her family that live about months out of the year in SE Asia.
 
I really hope not because the majority of my family lives in South Korea and ole Fancy Hair has stated his intentions to turn Seoul, my hometown of 15 years, into a "sea of fire".

I think it'll be a quiet transition. What does he have to gain from going ******* on everything?

In the back of my mind I hope that he does try something crazy. I would love nothing more than to be pushing North of the 38th in an Abrams and not stopping till the Yalu. The North's military is in shambles, it'd be easier than the initial invasion of Iraq.

I'd worry about the North's chemical arsenal. It doesn't take much to send a bunch of mustard gas (or something else properly nasty) into someone's face, or have a solder carry it into a battle field, killing himself & the enemy. Kim is NUTS, and he doesn't have much in the 'value of human life' department, for either his people or anyone else's.

:boxedin:
 
I'm not too worried about it. Does the North have the ability to cause massive casualties to South Korean citizens? Oh yes. Now does the North have the ability to put up an effective resistance against the US or South Korean military? Not a chance.

The North Korean military is in shambles. It's a shell of what it used to be and that wasn't much to brag about either.

I really don't think that any kind of war will break out. When I was a kid I thought there was a good chance of that because my mom would always tell me to be home before dark or I'd be kidnapped by North Koreans. Worked well enough and that stuff was still happening then. North Korean leaflets came down sometimes in the north winds. I had a nice collection of them but I think my mother threw them away. Anyway, they know better than to launch an attack against the South. They'd take a ton of civilians with them but one thing for sure is that it would be suicide.
 
I'm not too worried about it. Does the North have the ability to cause massive casualties to South Korean citizens? Oh yes. Now does the North have the ability to put up an effective resistance against the US or South Korean military? Not a chance.

The North Korean military is in shambles. It's a shell of what it used to be and that wasn't much to brag about either.

I really don't think that any kind of war will break out. When I was a kid I thought there was a good chance of that because my mom would always tell me to be home before dark or I'd be kidnapped by North Koreans. Worked well enough and that stuff was still happening then. North Korean leaflets came down sometimes in the north winds. I had a nice collection of them but I think my mother threw them away. Anyway, they know better than to launch an attack against the South. They'd take a ton of civilians with them but one thing for sure is that it would be suicide.

I think this is right. If North Korea has shown anything it is about self-preservation, not suicide. While they could cause huge damage to the South, it seems highly unlikely they could ever win...little less sustain a military drive beyond, say, destroying Seoul. We must remember that Russia and China would not be providing direct support for a North Korean invasion this time -- and, if providing any support at all, it is likely to be reluctant. The North hasn't got the petrol or other resources (food, etc.) to sustain a long campaign. Its weapons are out dated. It's army is untested. While its boarder guards may be an elite corps, ther is every indication that large swaths of the military is basically jailers, who get some better rations than the general population but not much. The question is are they able to bring much to a fight?

And, as has been pointed out before, by others, an invasion would expose large numbers of Northern troops to the lies that their government tells. Just think, even after five years of war, Soviet troops at the end of world war II rolling through devestated Poleland and Ceckloslavakia, not to mention Germany, became aware of the higher standard of living. Troops from the north would be seeing one of the largest consumer societies on earth and understand that their Southern breatheren were living far in advance of conditions in the north...the first supermarket they found would tell them more about the South than a thousand books. In other words, troops exposed to the south would become suspect and unreliable.

The problem the north faces is how to make the transition to the next generation of leadership...if that generation is to come from Kim's family. There is little doubt that the heir apparent, at 26, is unlikely to be ready to govern alone. Kim looks ill and to be dying...if not tomorrow in a year or two. The scary thing might be a power struggle not only among Kim's family but by military hard-liners...most of whom are unknown to the South or the West. It is also very unclear how this could turn out...the disruption of government in such a senario, for example, could once again exacerbate an already precarious food shortage in the north.
 
Well he is 67 years old - what exactly do people expect him to look like?
 

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