Is everyone aware of this? Has it already been posted? If so, then my apologies.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm
chrisberez
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LucyR said:
I haven't seen it posted previously, but I read this this morning. Although from what I read, he wasn't exactly fired, but resigned (albeit under considerable pressure). Living in America, this controversy over faked photographs in the U.K. has been tough to follow, although I've tried, mostly through my religious reading of the Guardian. If all this is true, about the photos being fake, (and it seems that they were) then he should resign. And if he didn't resign, then it was right that he be fired. All these goings on are disturbing and vile, but like accusitions of sexual harassment or pedophillia, charges if abuse are very very serious and will ruin the lives of those accused, whether guilty or not.
Hense the need to be very very sure of the evidence before acusitions are made.
Of course that is all separate from goings on here in the U.S. in which there is no question as to the physical evidence.
a_unique_person
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Jon_in_London will be doing cartwheels over this.
chrisberez
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American said:
NO!!!!
I can't sleep knowing this guy's out of work! It's not fair! He'll have to go back to the coal mine where he got his start, and slowly worked his way back up to tabloid rabble-rouser.
Help an American out. Although, judging from your name, you might be like me. But can someone tell me, is the Daily Mirror realiable? I've visited it a couple times on the web, but it tends to come off as a tabloid. Is the news it reports realiable most of the time? What about the observer?
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American said:
NO!!!!
I can't sleep knowing this guy's out of work! It's not fair! He'll have to go back to the coal mine where he got his start, and slowly worked his way back up to tabloid rabble-rouser.
You mean work his way back down to tabloid rabble-rouser, right?
The Daily Mirror is one of the UK "Tabloid" newspapers. It is generally left wing, as opposed to the Murdoch-owned papes (Times, Sun etc.) which follow the Murdoch line. It has a reputation for campaigning journalism but, like the other tabloids, tends not to let little things like facts get in the way of a good story.
Assuming the photos are really fakes, it seems that Piers Morgan was right to go.
However, this whole thing confuses me.
- Andrew Gilligan broadcasts a news story about Iraq and WMDs which, whilst essentially true, has some facts wrong. He resigns after an investigation costing the taxpayers over £2million.
- Piers Morgan publishes photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqis. Whilst fake, there is no doubt at all that abuses have been going on for a long time and the government has known about it for months. He resigns.
- Tony Blair takes the whole country to war based on the threat posed by WMDs, resulting in the deaths of many British soldiers. No WMDs exist, yet Tony keeps his job.
Some mistake, surely?
However, this whole thing confuses me.
- Andrew Gilligan broadcasts a news story about Iraq and WMDs which, whilst essentially true, has some facts wrong. He resigns after an investigation costing the taxpayers over £2million.
- Piers Morgan publishes photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqis. Whilst fake, there is no doubt at all that abuses have been going on for a long time and the government has known about it for months. He resigns.
- Tony Blair takes the whole country to war based on the threat posed by WMDs, resulting in the deaths of many British soldiers. No WMDs exist, yet Tony keeps his job.
Some mistake, surely?
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Zep said:
Too ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ long.
a_unique_person
Not really. I would be doing cartwheels if Piers Moron got dressed as a squaddie, sent to Iraq, got kidnapped and had his head cut off with a rusty teaspoon. Then I would be happy.
I have to agree with Jon on this one. The last election was in June 2001. When the next election is held is entirely up to the Prime Minister, with a maximum gap of 5 years, so it could be as late as June 2006. Normally elections are held with a 4-5 year gap so it is lilkely to be next summer or autumn. Of course, Prime Ministers always try to choose the best time for them to win, so expect a delayed election if Labour are unpopular next year or maybe an early election if they think they can win.Zep said:
Labour are still overwhelmingly likely to win the next election, though probably with a reduced majority.
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Gilligan is a twat, he deserved the sack.iain said:
Morgan is a twat, he deserved the sack.iain said:
Blair is a twat, he deserved the sack. Oh hang on ...iain said:
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Not likely to happen. OTOH, he might just bump in to Jeremy Clarkson again.
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I did a little dance when I heard that Piers Morgan had been sacked. He is a clueless, charmless idiot.
For the record, he was effectively sacked. The board asked him to apologise - he refused, and he was told to quit. He was then escorted from the premises by security. Which is the icing on the cake, really.
For the record, he was effectively sacked. The board asked him to apologise - he refused, and he was told to quit. He was then escorted from the premises by security. Which is the icing on the cake, really.