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Crop Circles in Ohio

They don't even name that "independent crop-circle investigator"? What a sorry excuse for journalism. We need to know on whom to heap ridicule.
 
Another link, better picture. BTW other crop circles have appeared near other towns named Peebles. :eek:

http://home.fuse.net/ufo/

http://www.peoplesdefender.com/

The design, designated as a crop circle, was first seen by Delsey Knoechelman, of Peebles, on Sunday, Aug. 24 around 11 a.m. Knoechelman stated that the creation was not there on Saturday as she inspected the fields in the area for flood damage. She returned to her home where she contacted the Adams County Sheriff's office and then returned to the site with family. Knoechelman's father, Jim McKenzie, inspected the site with a metal detector, where he found several different metallic levels and minerals in the outlining circle. According to McKenzie, one circle had higher concentrated levels of minerals than did the others.

Jeff Wilson, an independent crop circle investigator from Dexter, Mich., documented slightly higher radiation levels inside the design, as well as slightly higher electrical and magnetic fields than those outside of the marking. The plants inside the cirles have been swirled to the ground and have sustained heat damage. According to Wilson, it is more difficult to analyze markings such as the ones found at the site because there have only been an estimated 10 reported markings in soybeans in the United States.
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:v: Radiation level? Electrical and magnetic fields? Measured how?

But they are learning: Now it is "than the land outside the design". Earlier it was just "higher". I see this as a sign of the pressure by the skeptic community (hopefully :rolleyes:)

Hans
 
I saw this on the evening news in Dayton, Pyrrho. In the same half-hour local newscast I also got a story on the "haunted" police station in Shelbyville, KY. When they broke for commercial, I saw an ad for "world renowned"? psychics Tony Santos and Carole Lynne, who are going to appear at a Holiday Inn in town this weekend. Never heard of either of the buggers.

About that time my skept-o-meter exploded and I had to turn the TV off.

I think it's time for an e-mail to WDTN Channel 2 in Dayton.
 
What gets me are the survey options.

Yes, it's a sign from another galaxy.

or

No, it's a hoax.

What if you think it's a sign from within our own galaxy? You can't vote then :(
 
Yes, or if you believe, like me, that no crop circles are hoaxes: They are all made by genuine humans. :cool:

Hans
 
Crop circles have intrigued me like no other thing, in history. The claims! Yet, the conflicting claims regarding the evidence. You have all these researchers...yet, who ARE these researchers? (the guys name listed above? Hmmmm...a TABloid couldn't make up a more goofy sounding name!) Wouldn't 'they' already know the truth? And what about this reputed claim of something like 10,000 crop circles world-wide? Supposedly they had these things around, centuries before the British hoaxers were born.

Could it possibly be that there have actually been SIMPLE crop circles formed by an energy field of some sort...and THEN the hoaxers came along and started with their extravagent designs? Surely, you would think there would be departments in universities studying these things and would have knowledge about at least hundreds of specific ones. Then, there atre people...witnesses who claim to have seen these little light balls that are forming them...and some say these things form almost instantly.

Have crop circles ever appeared in grassy fields far and away from where populations exist? What crops are the affected ones? Surely, researchers would be able to find out if human feet were in the area...wouldn't they? I could go on and on.

It's quite maddening. This is like what we went through in trying to determine if there was/is anything supernatural/paranormal about the Bermuda Triangle.

I wonder too, if Joe Newman believes in Crop Circles. He believes that a (his) energy machine can keep powering a grid, and returning more energy to the machine than what it started with! :wink8:
 
Iamme said:
Crop circles have intrigued me like no other thing, in history. The claims! Yet, the conflicting claims regarding the evidence. You have all these researchers...yet, who ARE these researchers? (the guys name listed above? Hmmmm...a TABloid couldn't make up a more goofy sounding name!) Wouldn't 'they' already know the truth? And what about this reputed claim of something like 10,000 crop circles world-wide? Supposedly they had these things around, centuries before the British hoaxers were born.
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Supposedly. There is no published evidence of any kind that there was ever a crop circle before the Brirish Hoaxers started making theirs.

Could it possibly be that there have actually been SIMPLE crop circles formed by an energy field of some sort...and THEN the hoaxers came along and started with their extravagent designs?
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It really depends on how far out onto the limb of probability one is willing to go. It is extremely unlikely that an energy field or anything or anyone but human beings is responsible for crop circles. So unlikely in fact that I have no choice to but to conclude that there is no compelling reason to believe that there is anything supernatural or alien about them.

Surely, you would think there would be departments in universities studying these things and would have knowledge about at least hundreds of specific ones.
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Not if there is nothing to study.

Then, there atre people...witnesses who claim to have seen these little light balls that are forming them...and some say these things form almost instantly.
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People make all kinds of claims. One must evaluate the veracity, and reliabilty of those claims. All of the claims I have read or seen are extremely suspect.

Have crop circles ever appeared in grassy fields far and away from where populations exist?
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There is no way to know for sure. The problem is that if one sees a crop circle in a remote spot, how can one conclude that people are not responsible for it. It is not as if the area is entirely inaccessable to people or the discovery could not have been made.

What crops are the affected ones?
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Wheat, barley, rye...Anything that lies down nicely. Corn is not conducive to crop circles and niether are tomatoes or berries etc...The circle makers are always polite enough not to utterly destroy the crop by crushing the fruit or burning anything.

Surely, researchers would be able to find out if human feet were in the area...wouldn't they? I could go on and on.
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Usually they can and usually they find that human feet have indeed been in the area. Not terribly surprising. Also remember that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I wonder too, if Joe Newman believes in Crop Circles. He believes that a (his) energy machine can keep powering a grid, and returning more energy to the machine than what it started with! :wink8:
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Newman is obviously a man of science! He would never buy into such nonsense as it is clearly impossible to make any real money with crop circles.;)

Glory
 
Gloria--Does this mean then that you don't believe in unexplained crop circles?:roll:
 
I was thinking of making some crop circles this year with my friends, until I realized 2 things:

1. My area is a flat glacial floodplane, I could literally make a crop circle and it would never be seen, unless its noticed by a pilot.

2. None of my friends have relatives who are farmers who would let us use their land. If we were caught, the farmer would be mighty pissed we ruined some of his small crop.


Maybe next year....
 
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Sorry Glory. My bad.:o
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No harm, no fowl. I intended to post immediately after that facetious post that I took no offense but I was distracted by a lovely Heffeweisen. Now it's really hard to type.

I believe in all sorts of things which are unexplained. I simply do not believe that such things are unexplainable.

Glory
 
Glory said:

I believe in all sorts of things which are unexplained. I simply do not believe that such things are unexplainable.

Glory
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Interesting.

I believe in things that are unexplained as well. There is a small number (I believe 5%, don't quote me here) of UFO reports that remain unexplained. I don't think this even approaches the possibility that they are extraterrestrial spacecraft. I just accept that there's going to be things out there that no one can explain because of various circumstances. (Lack of data, poor reports, blurry photos.)

Or by "belief" do you indeed mean that you consider the unexplained residue of some paranormal claims might be truly unusual stuff? (Ghosts, psychics, aliens, etc, whatever...)
 
..."all sorts of things unexplained" (My post addressed to nobody in particular.)

Loch Ness Monster, Bermuda Triangle, Bigfoot/Sasquatch, ghosts, aliens, crop circles, telepathy, telekenisis, psychic/mediumship, magnetic healing, parrots that that have telepathy, OBE's/NDE's, Jesus/miracles, prayer/healings/faith healings--statistics showing prayed for people heal faster..hmmm, what else is there?

There are all these 'experts' out there that have studied all of the listed, and some of the experts claim all of these things are real or could be real...while others debunk the stuff...each and every one of them. They could all be real, all fake, one real, with the rest fake, etc.

Hmmm..why are there hyraglyphics (sp.) on cave walls that show what appear to be spacemen in space suits?, or hovering vehicles?

There is a 'force' that is toying with our minds. It is the same 'force' that knew it would boggle reputed brainy people into trying to solve ....how can you have a finite circle circumference, with a finite diameter, and yet the formula (pi) which ratio formula between the two, is not a finite exact number be used to find the finite circumference??? Or, how is it that everything in the universe appears to come out of infinity, but yet wind up visibly as being finite???? (example: Take a leaf on a tree. It is finite. It's edges are defined and end at the air around it. Yet, if you peer into the leave through a microscope, you will never find the center of the leave, I don't think. You will get to a point where you start splitting and splitting the makeup of an atom, a quark, a neutrino, till infinitim...maybe.

The mysteries of life are a blessing and a curse, at the same time. They are here, for our entertainment only. For all we know, all of life might be a 'reality' that doesn't even exist.
 
lamme,

Hmmm..why are there hyraglyphics (sp.) on cave walls that show what appear to be spacemen in space suits?, or hovering vehicles?
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Oh please...just don't go there, okay! Von Daniken has a lot to answer for...
 
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Why oh why oh why does that look so familiar?

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(It's crosslinked from here -- you'll enter about halfway down the thread.
 
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