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Crimes Against Humanity; the ICC against Trump.

The Atheist

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As the ICC has prosecuted Netanyahu for genocide, so it needs to proceed with a case against Trump.

While individuals cannot raise a case at ICC, individuals can certainly recommend the Office of the Prosecutor investigates alleged cases.

In Trump's case, I believe there are many potential paths that could lead to a crimes against humanity case, but the simplest one is this: https://www.propublica.org/article/kakuma-kenya-matenity-ward-foreign-aid-cuts

The withdrawal of US Aid is clearly costing innocent lives on an industrial scale across the world as food and medical supplies are inadequate to maintain life support for women and children (of course).

Feel free to add other examples that fit the level of crime against humanity. Extra-judicial execution of people in boats also fits the bill.
 
I'm not sure refusing to supply aid is the same as ordering a military campaign.

Also, who's going to enforce it?
 
Donal said:
I'm not sure refusing to supply aid is the same as ordering a military campaign.

Also, who's going to enforce it?
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Nobody's capable of enforcing anything, or Netanyahu would be behind bars.

While aid is a choice, I think the long and highly established history of giving the aid is a crime when it's removed for no reason.
 
The Atheist said:
Nobody's capable of enforcing anything, or Netanyahu would be behind bars.

While aid is a choice, I think the long and highly established history of giving the aid is a crime when it's removed for no reason.
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Good grief. The American taxpayer is the slave to the world.
 
The Atheist said:
As the ICC has prosecuted Netanyahu for genocide, so it needs to proceed with a case against Trump.

While individuals cannot raise a case at ICC, individuals can certainly recommend the Office of the Prosecutor investigates alleged cases.

In Trump's case, I believe there are many potential paths that could lead to a crimes against humanity case, but the simplest one is this: https://www.propublica.org/article/kakuma-kenya-matenity-ward-foreign-aid-cuts

The withdrawal of US Aid is clearly costing innocent lives on an industrial scale across the world as food and medical supplies are inadequate to maintain life support for women and children (of course).

Feel free to add other examples that fit the level of crime against humanity. Extra-judicial execution of people in boats also fits the bill.
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Netanyahu has not been prosecuted by the ICC. He hasn’t even been arrested.

Looking at their website it seems the court has achieved only 7 convictions in its 23 year existence. Toothless is the best description.

The ICC was a good idea, but relying on member nations to enforce warrants has simply not worked. Anyone who thinks Trump would ever be arrested by the ICC is delusional.

It will be up to the US to take action. It won’t happen.
 
The US doesn't recognise the authority of the ICC. Never has. If it did, every President since Woodrow Wilson would have to face prosecution.
 
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It's a weird take that "failure to provide charity" is viewed as a crime against humanity. Were that the case... I'd say that about 90% of the planet's population is guilty.
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I wouldn't call it "charity" at this point. Do you have any idea how much wealth we've extracted from these countries since the end of WW2 alone?

Maybe its not a "crime" but its certainly failing a moral obligation.
 
Seems to be a few big biased thoughts in play as to who owes whom what.
Governments change. Leaders change. Borders change. Situations become irrelevant when time passes. Otherwise the Roman empire would still owe Europe and Africa billions upon billions just in back interest fees.
Who should be answering for Roman conquest?
 
Last I checked, Rome didn't strong arm the Solidus into being the world's reserve currency and use institutions like the World Bank and International Monetary Fund to force policies like austerity measures on other countries. Countries like Mexico.
 
And the world distrusts foreign aid because its unreliable.
We're doing fine here, thanks.
 
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Steve said:
Poor long suffering Americans. Everybody takes advantage. :dl: :big:
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He's right about the op, which is accusing the US of crimes against humanity for not giving other nations money, which is far more laughable than Trausti's pointing that out.

Its bizarre really, considering what trump has the Navy doing in the Caribbean.
 
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Foreign aid that usually has conditions every time. Effectively foreign influence in sovereign affairs.

That kinda accepted if national interests align but frequently someone benefit$$$$.
 
8enotto said:
And the world distrusts foreign aid because its unreliable.
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Agree. The problem is, again, the US and global institutions have put many nations in a position where it isn't optional.
8enotto said:
We're doing fine here, thanks.
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40% poverty rate and you're still tied to our economy. Guess what happens to Mexico if the next Federal Reserve Chair decides to crank up interests rates up to 1980s levels if/when Trump wants.
 
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8enotto said:
Foreign aid that usually has conditions every time. Effectively foreign influence in sovereign affairs.
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Tell me you don't know anything about the foreign aid and development sector without telling me that you don't know anything about the foreign aid and development sector.
 
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