CrimeCon and Hypocrisy

[Desert Fox]

There is apparently a convention called "CrimeCon." I don't know what the right term is but there are a lot of what might be termed "Crime Groupies." It appears as if there are going to be a lot of people involved in the questioning side of things though.

One issue I have is that one of the people there is suppose to be Nancy Grace. There is basically nobody whom she things is innocent no matter how flimsy the evidence or how much evidence there is against guilt. He being there makes me feel a lot worse and wonder if the people involved are not more interested in money than the truth or even due process.

Even if I was in the area and interested in going, I would boycott it because of her being invited. I consider her to basically be a vulture.


Thoughts?

 

[MikeG]

.........There is basically nobody whom she things is innocent no matter how flimsy the evidence..........

There are one or two posters here who think no-one is guilty, no matter how strong the evidence. Both extremes are equally as indefensible.

 

[desmirelle]

I wondered when "CrimeCon" would happened. There are conventions for everything these days.

 

[Desert Fox]

There are one or two posters here who think no-one is guilty, no matter how strong the evidence. Both extremes are equally as indefensible.

Yes, I have seen that, such as poster who seems to believe that Scott Peterson is innocent. Even if I disagree with them, I actually prefer people who want to see the good in people, the benefit of the doubt, than the bad.

Still, if she wanted to buy tickets and go like everybody else, great, but I see hypocrisy with her being a featured guest.

 

[kali1137]

It peaked my interest quite a bit when I first saw it advertised. The price for the tickets is completely insane. And Nancy Grace is a despicable person. But have no fear, someone will say something she doesn't like or agree with and she will storm off in a huff. Performance cut short.

 

[Chris_Halkides]

Ken Kratz will be discussing Brendan Dassey

At CrimeCon Ken Kratz will be discussing confessions:

"Wrongful conviction activists claim that false confessions occur in up to 25% of overturned cases. The “epidemic” of suspects providing made-up inculpatory statements is most often attributed to coercive or physically abusive police interview tactics. But are these incendiary claims true?

"Attorney Ken Kratz examines the current legal issues surrounding custodial confessions, and challenges the accuracy and motives of many popular innocence crusaders, making claims of wide-spread interrogation abuses. Kratz uses real-life interrogation examples, including the confession of Brendan Dassey, when he asks his audience to take a critical look into this common criminal justice fallacy."

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[nota]

nasty withoutgrace is an attention pig lover

 

[wasapi]

nasty withoutgrace is an attention pig lover

Well, OK. There is that . . .

Nancy Grace has become like a caricature of herself. Over-the-top, overly confident, strident, self absorbed. (She still milks the fact that many years ago, her boyfriend was murdered,) and while talking to a true victim of a recent crime, Nancy must make her tragedy the main focus.

It seems that crime - the most sensational and gruesome - has taken place of soap operas, game shows, and other "entertainment". No doubt CrimeCon will be a success.

 

[carrps]

I thought he was no longer her boyfriend when he was murdered, and his family hated her making a name off his death.

 

[Desert Fox]

At CrimeCon Ken Kratz will be discussing confessions:

"Wrongful conviction activists claim that false confessions occur in up to 25% of overturned cases. The “epidemic” of suspects providing made-up inculpatory statements is most often attributed to coercive or physically abusive police interview tactics. But are these incendiary claims true?

"Attorney Ken Kratz examines the current legal issues surrounding custodial confessions, and challenges the accuracy and motives of many popular innocence crusaders, making claims of wide-spread interrogation abuses. Kratz uses real-life interrogation examples, including the confession of Brendan Dassey, when he asks his audience to take a critical look into this common criminal justice fallacy."

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Maybe they will let Detective Glenn Ford (Norfolk Four) Skype in?

 

[BStrong]

There are different sorts of folks interested in crime.

Some are cop groupies or perp apologists, some people dig forensic sciences.

I guess it's fun for folks that don't do it for a living.

One thing that has always surprised me is the woman that flock to convicted individuals currently incarcerated.

Lots of romances bloom after a murder conviction. Strangest example of all time, so far, overview:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple

The uglies:

http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/w.Whipple..beastiality.htm

 

[Samson]

There are one or two posters here who think no-one is guilty, no matter how strong the evidence. Both extremes are equally as indefensible.

i think we disagree on just one case Mike.

 

[Faydra]

I watch a lot of crime tv, so I guess I could be called a crime groupie.

My son says I watch "murder porn".

 

[Ampulla of Vater]

I watch a lot of crime tv, so I guess I could be called a crime groupie.

My son says I watch "murder porn".

Yeah, me too, Faydra. I mostly listen to podcasts though. The recent success of podcasts such as Serial, Up and Vanished, True Crime Garage, Sword and Scale, etc. is what brought about Crimecon, IMO.

Of course the video series' like The Jinx, The Staircase and Making a Murderer are popular too. And now there's The Keepers taking the country by storm.

The ID channel has cheap versions of true crime. They pump out shows like there's no tomorrow. Their shows are so bad though. Everything is reenacted, which I can't stand, but it is definitely murder porn.

 

[Faydra]

Yeah, me too, Faydra. I mostly listen to podcasts though. The recent success of podcasts such as Serial, Up and Vanished, True Crime Garage, Sword and Scale, etc. is what brought about Crimecon, IMO.

Of course the video series' like The Jinx, The Staircase and Making a Murderer are popular too. And now there's The Keepers taking the country by storm.

The ID channel has cheap versions of true crime. They pump out shows like there's no tomorrow. Their shows are so bad though. Everything is reenacted, which I can't stand, but it is definitely murder porn.

Yeah, I definitely prefer the ones that don't do the reenacting (is that a word??). Although, sometimes its fun to see just how bad the acting can be. I like seeing the steps they go through from finding the dead body to arresting the killer. Especially like the real interview room scenes. If I had life to do all over again, I'd go into forensics instead of IT.

 

[deadrose]

Yeah. I got into forensics by reading my dad's forensic pathology textbooks. That and living in the Serial Killer Capital of the US most of my life Someone looking at my book collection might think I was a killer-in-training but I'm just interested in the psychological & forensic aspects, uses and misuses, stuff like that.

 

[Desert Fox]

Thinking about it, I think my issue is more with the podcasters whom I know are going. . . .I thought they were better than this

 

[Ampulla of Vater]

Yeah, I definitely prefer the ones that don't do the reenacting (is that a word??). Although, sometimes its fun to see just how bad the acting can be. I like seeing the steps they go through from finding the dead body to arresting the killer. Especially like the real interview room scenes. If I had life to do all over again, I'd go into forensics instead of IT.

Me too! I wish I would have been a Medical examiner, actually. Or maybe a lawyer or forensic crime scene investigator. I love reading books about forensics, like deadrose. My family thinks I am insane. The whole thing fascinates me, from the crime to the trial. The trials are fascinating because it's like a game - you have to prove your case but you must stay within the rules. You can figure out how to best get a piece of evidence admitted, as long as you can do it cleverly, or as long as you don't get caught bending the rules.

 

[Samson]

Me too! I wish I would have been a Medical examiner, actually. Or maybe a lawyer or forensic crime scene investigator. I love reading books about forensics, like deadrose. My family thinks I am insane. The whole thing fascinates me, from the crime to the trial. The trials are fascinating because it's like a game - you have to prove your case but you must stay within the rules. You can figure out how to best get a piece of evidence admitted, as long as you can do it cleverly, or as long as you don't get caught bending the rules.

Great exposee of the abhorrent devices used to screw the hapless innocent.

 

[Ampulla of Vater]

Great exposee of the abhorrent devices used to screw the hapless innocent.

The defense plays by the same rules. They can also get certain facts or evidence in if they are clever. If you're innocent, simply refuting the prosecution point by point works too.