Council advises ecstasy downgrade

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In addition to ignoring the councils recommendations concerning the classification of cannabis, the UK government are now going to ignore their recommendations on ecstasy.

I just wondered what everybody thought.
 
Why do they bother setting up a council of experts to look into things if they then make it clear that they are not going to take any notice of what they say? It seems like a bit of a waste of time.

As usual, someone has said something about downgrading ecstasy "sending the wrong message" to young people. Well, what sort of message does this decision send?
 
Matthew Best said:
Why do they bother setting up a council of experts to look into things if they then make it clear that they are not going to take any notice of what they say? It seems like a bit of a waste of time.

As usual, someone has said something about downgrading ecstasy "sending the wrong message" to young people. Well, what sort of message does this decision send?
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That was my thought. Apart from any arguments for or against drug legislation, the whole thing just seems like a waste of money. My money, damnit. (That's assuming that the DAC is paid for out of public funds)
 
Matthew Best said:
Why do they bother setting up a council of experts to look into things if they then make it clear that they are not going to take any notice of what they say? It seems like a bit of a waste of time.
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Because they hoped that it would say that extasy will make people eat kittens while they are alive. That would be great for them to keep it illegal and prevent it from being studied.
As usual, someone has said something about downgrading ecstasy "sending the wrong message" to young people. Well, what sort of message does this decision send?
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That people will never stand for rational drug laws.
 
My fear is that having ecstasy in the same category as heroin sends the message that if you can handle the occasional hit of MDMA then you'll probably be OK if you take heroin or crack, too. After all, they're in the same category.

Isn't that a reasonable (if dangerous) conclusion to draw?
 
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same ****, different day. Appoint experts to make recommendations. Experts make recommendations. Then only accept said recommendations if it's PC to friggin' do so. And no politician wants to be seen as "soft on drugs" even if they have to openly declare their stupidity to the world like the badge of ignorance that it is. May their balls rot off.:v:

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Matthew Best said:
My fear is that having ecstasy in the same category as heroin sends the message that if you can handle the occasional hit of MDMA then you'll probably be OK if you take heroin or crack, too. After all, they're in the same category.

Isn't that a reasonable (if dangerous) conclusion to draw?
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I see what you mean, but I think that most people are actually well-informed enough to know that ecstacy and crack are a different ball game, and do draw their own distinction. The legal status falls into the "who cares?" category.

Off the top of their head most people wouldn't know or care about the difference between a class A, B or C drug anyway. When they chop and change the classes for something that is perceived to be as innocuous as cannabis to arrange it so that you could be jailed for 5 years for possession, it only confirms the opinion that grading is irrelevant - or even laughable.

It's why the regrading of drugs like this is a pretty pointless exercise, in my opinion - many people who go clubbing regularly take ecstacy regularly, and know that it doesn't do them any harm. They're familiar with it and its effects and the fact that it's illegal. It would only "send the wrong message to the kids" if the kids were actually listening and if they cared what you had to say. Even in a forum like this one full of upstanding citizens (hem hem) the reaction is "Pffft."
 
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