Condemning American Culture

[evildave]

Who in the world could have a problem with American Culture?

Cars and TV sets and technology galore.

Convenience and name brands and everything a short drive away in your 9200lb SUV.

Junk food and beer with TV sports.

The best medical treatment that money can buy, and to heck with you if you didn't have the foresight to pay whatever coverage costs, or hold down the sort of jobs that offer it.

Televangelists and faith healers who can make you better just by touching your TV set and sending money.

Melodramatic movies with people running faster than explosions and lots of gunplay. TV shows where everyone laughs and laughs.

All that cheap shiny imported stuff you can just throw away when it gets chipped.

Who could wish more for their town than a Walmart, and a McDonald's?

Where it's still OK to shoot some creep who tries to get into your home, and maybe steal something.

Everything is just perfect here in the U.S. of A. Who in the world could have a problem with all of that great stuff, anyway?

An anti-American spoilsport, that's who!

Why, we even have the best and most well-populated prisons anywhere!

 

[NoZed Avenger]

If I see a point, I'll tell it to head on over to this thread.

Or perhaps I'll move to one of those countries without problems that I hear so much about.

 

[Tmy]

Ya know whats worse. The Anti-Popular culture crowd. They seem to hate things just cause people like them.

Like those people with the "Kill Your TV" bumperstickers.! HOW DARE THEY!! TV is one ofthe greatest inventions ever. Its bad rep is really undeserved.

KILL YOUR BOOKS!

 

[Cleon]

KILL YOUR BOOKS!

Tmy, when did you become a Republican?

 

[Zep]

Who in the world could have a problem with American Culture?

Cars and TV sets and technology galore.

Convenience and name brands and everything a short drive away in your 9200lb SUV.

Junk food and beer with TV sports.

The best medical treatment that money can buy, and to heck with you if you didn't have the foresight to pay whatever coverage costs, or hold down the sort of jobs that offer it.

Televangelists and faith healers who can make you better just by touching your TV set and sending money.

Melodramatic movies with people running faster than explosions and lots of gunplay. TV shows where everyone laughs and laughs.

All that cheap shiny imported stuff you can just throw away when it gets chipped.

Who could wish more for their town than a Walmart, and a McDonald's?

Where it's still OK to shoot some creep who tries to get into your home, and maybe steal something.

Everything is just perfect here in the U.S. of A. Who in the world could have a problem with all of that great stuff, anyway?

An anti-American spoilsport, that's who!

Why, we even have the best and most well-populated prisons anywhere!

Oh well, nowhere's perfect!

Sounds like you should stand for office, and get about rectifying the situation as you see fit.

 

[Tony]

Dont forget video games, Mobster flicks, Jello shots and Girls Gone Wild dvd's.

 

[Luke T.]

Freedom rocks, baby!

At three o'clock in the morning, I can drive a half mile and load up on food, alcohol, cigarettes, condoms, toothpaste, aspirin, nail clippers, coffee, a frozen ice concoction, magazines, newspaper, a calling card, a birthday card, some massage oil, an electric lawn mower, a houseplant, and a lottery ticket. And I have multiple choices of each item! And I can get a prescription filled. And I can shop in my pajamas and bathrobe if I want to. At three in the morning! Three in the morning!

 

[Tony]

Freedom rocks, baby!

At three o'clock in the morning, I can drive a half mile and load up on food, alcohol, cigarettes, condoms, toothpaste, aspirin, nail clippers, coffee, a frozen ice concoction, magazines, newspaper, a calling card, a birthday card, some massage oil, an electric lawn mower, a houseplant, and a lottery ticket. And I have multiple choices of each item! And I can get a prescription filled. And I can shop in my pajamas and bathrobe if I want to. At three in the morning! Three in the morning!

A few of those things will earn you an execution in evildave's islamic paradise.

 

[Ziggurat]

American culture does rock. That's why so much of the world wants a piece of it. Hell, even the French, who specialize in anti-Americanism, need to import anti-Americanism from the U.S. (Moore), and have to legislate how much non-French programming can make it on TV because they can't compete on a level playing field for culture even with their own language advantage.

The only countries who CAN compete with us on the cultural front are Britain and Japan, about the only major exporters of culture besides us.

 

[Flo]

Freedom rocks, baby!

At three o'clock in the morning, I can drive a half mile and load up on food, alcohol, cigarettes, condoms, toothpaste, aspirin, nail clippers, coffee, a frozen ice concoction, magazines, newspaper, a calling card, a birthday card, some massage oil, an electric lawn mower, a houseplant, and a lottery ticket. And I have multiple choices of each item! And I can get a prescription filled. And I can shop in my pajamas and bathrobe if I want to. At three in the morning! Three in the morning!

So can I, and in much skimpier nightclothes !

 

[Flo]

American culture does rock. That's why so much of the world wants a piece of it. Hell, even the French, who specialize in anti-Americanism, need to import anti-Americanism from the U.S. (Moore)

You're way behind times, we certainly didn't wait for Moore. He just found a cozy niche for his particular brand

and have to legislate how much non-French programming can make it on TV because they can't compete on a level playing field for culture even with their own language advantage.

Since when horrible soaps and silly "reality-shows" are "culture" ?

The only countries who CAN compete with us on the cultural front are Britain and Japan, about the only major exporters of culture besides us.

You've obviously never seen Japanese TV, then. If the majority of it is considered culture, even Swiss state-sponsored TV's card tournaments shows (1 hour watching 4 guys playing "jass" while listening to folkloric songs in Schwitzertütsch ) is too !

 

[Skeptic]

You're quite right, evildave. America has too much junk food, crap TV, SUVs, expensive medical care, and stores that sell tons of unnecessary geegaws to the masses. You can easily avoid this and have the healthy replacement: not enough to eat, one state-controlled TV channel, no roads or transportation, no medical treatment worth mentioning, and crushing poverty due to a subsistance-level economy--in quite a few countries in the world.

Walmart, McDonald's, and Cable TV and SUVs symbolize to most of the world precisely what is GOOD about America: it's freedom and prosperity. It is precisely to have Wal-Mart and McDonald's, SUVs and cable TV, that people come to America in the first place. Your "criticism" here is, in effect, the equivalent of "oh, the gold paving the streets looks so tacky after a while."

But what's really annoying here is that you only started this thead as a "response" to the criticism of Muslim culture in another thread. God forbid that somebody be permitted to criticize Islamic countries without being told over and over again how America is just as bad, if not worse.

Quite apart from a). this being absolute nonsense, and b). your very own "criticism" actually showing what is GOOD about America, your reflex demand for "equivalence" shows you are a moral moron: it presupposes that the mideaval, theocratic, dictatorial, impoverishing way of life in most (not all) Islamic countries is somehow equal, or comprabable, in its faults to the modern, secular, democratic and prosperous USA, and so that both deserve the same amount of criticism.

If you were on trial for something, you could probably use these posts of yours as evidence for an insanity plea, on the basis that they prove you really don't have a clue about the difference between right or wrong, good and bad, freedm and slavery, etc.

 

[Skeptic]

At three o'clock in the morning, I can drive a half mile and load up on food, alcohol, cigarettes, condoms, toothpaste, aspirin, nail clippers, coffee, a frozen ice concoction, magazines, newspaper, a calling card, a birthday card, some massage oil, an electric lawn mower, a houseplant, and a lottery ticket.

I envy your sex life. But what's the lottery ticket for?

 

[Number Six]

France didn't have to import it's anti-Americanism from America, as the Frenchman that wrote the book saying that 9/11 attacks weren't really attacks and had his book go to #1 in France proved.

And yes, soap operas and reality shows are culture although not culture that I care to partake of. But the fact some countries limit the amount of such stuff by law that their people can be exposed to shows that they think that their people would prefer such things to their own programming. And they're right right. And it pisses them off so they get angry at the US. Step back for a minute...they get angry at the US because they would rather watch US shows than their own shows! It's not cultural imperialism, rather it's their attraction to American culture and their simultaneous hatred of themselves for being so attracted to American culture. It's like being pissed off at Coke because you like their product so much you can't stop drinking it.

 

[Tmy]

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And yes, soap operas and reality shows are culture although not culture that I care to partake of. it.

Eliteist!!!! Shakespear wrote soap operas, and relaity shows are modern day gladiator events!! REJOICE!!!

 

[BPSCG]

If you were on trial for something, you could probably use these posts of yours as evidence for an insanity plea, on the basis that they prove you really don't have a clue about the difference between right or wrong, good and bad, freedm and slavery, etc.

...the insanity plea was a rather far-fetched compliment to pay the prisoner, inasmuch as one must first have brains before he can go crazy, and there was surely nothing in the evidence to show that McFarland had enough of the raw material to justify him in attempting anything more imposing than a lively form of idiocy. -- Mark Twain - "Unburlesqueable Things"

Plus ca change...

 

[Larspeart]

If I see a point, I'll tell it to head on over to this thread.

Or perhaps I'll move to one of those countries without problems that I hear so much about.

Me too! I want to live in one of those perfect countries, instead of this one, where everything is tyranny and hell and damnation!

I think EvilDave must live in a real perfect place! Let's all of us Americans move there.

 

[Skeptic]

Me too! I want to live in one of those perfect countries, instead of this one, where everything is tyranny and hell and damnation!

I think EvilDave must live in a real perfect place! Let's all of us Americans move there.

But if they do, wouldn't the place be likely to IMPROVE? And wouldn't that be evil American imperialism in action?

 

[Jocko]

Dave, I've got a great deal on a beautiful three-room shanty in Pyongang. Guaranteed to be 100% free of all those annoying elements of American culture.

I sure hope you're just feeling unloved, and that's why your trolling has become so much worse lately. Because if you actually believe this BS then you should take the first step and UNPLUG YOUR FRIGGING COMPUTER FROM THE INTERNET AND FIND A NICE STATE-RUN NEWSPAPER TO GET INFO FROM.

Don't know if that would help you, but it would do me a lot of good.

 

[epepke]

But what's really annoying here is that you only started this thead as a "response" to the criticism of Muslim culture in another thread. God forbid that somebody be permitted to criticize Islamic countries without being told over and over again how America is just as bad, if not worse.

I for one am glad that he did, because the object lesson is that, even though this is an American site and a substantial number of participants are American, there isn't anywhere near as much histrionic defensiveness of American culture or attempt to make exculpatory references to other cultures as there is in the other thread.

You say that American culture sucks, and people largely either agree or at least consider it not worth getting worked up over. You say Islamic culture sucks, and everybody and his dog wants to jump on you.

So I hope but do not expect that Evildave actually gets the message.