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Coincidence Theory

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Hey All,

I read this in the NewYork Times Magazine on Sunday, and wanted to get your thoughts.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/magazine/14COINCIDENCE.html

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More than half of Americans believe in ''anomalous phenomena'' like clairvoyance, unexplained coincidence, prayer healing and psychokinesis. Yet mainstream science remains unconvinced. After all, these anomalies appear to fly in the face of everything we know about how mind and matter interact. But that may be about to change. This year, Elizabeth Lloyd Mayer, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, introduced a conceptual model to explain seemingly inexplicable events scientifically.

In 1991, Mayer had her own brush with the anomalous. She was searching for a stolen family possession and, on a dare, turned for help to a man 800 miles away who claimed to be psychic. To her astonishment, he was able to tell her precisely where to find the missing object. Mayer wanted a scientific explanation, and she embarked on a decade of research.

Mayer's research and writings eventually led her to Robert G. Jahn, a science and engineering professor at Princeton. Since 1979, Jahn had amassed a mountain of data demonstrating people's ability to alter the outcome of a random event generator -- essentially a machine designed to replicate a perfect coin toss over and over -- in a minute but statistically significant way.

Comparing the latest research from the fields of neuroscience, psychoanalytic psychology and quantum physics, Mayer and Jahn found some intriguing overlaps. Just as psychologists have spent the last century exploring the unconscious mind, physicists have been exploring that netherworld of physics called intangible dynamics, where string theory and quantum mechanics lurk. Both of these shadow realms violate our everyday understanding of logic and physics, space and time.

Jahn and Mayer say they believe that anomalous phenomena may be a result of some type of information exchange between the unconscious and the intangible. ''Clairvoyance'' may actually be snippets of information from the physical world slipping into the unconscious mind and percolating up into awareness. Moving in the opposite direction, the unconscious mind may have the ability to subtly alter the physical world, explaining Jahn's data using random event generators.

For now, the model is more a way to think about the problem of anomalous phenomena than a solution. ''Though we're still far from having evidence which proves it correct,'' Mayer notes in a public lecture she began giving this year, ''we can find tantalizing grounds on which to find it appealing.''
 
They seem to be referencing the longest running paranormal "investigation" in history. I believe that even the principle investigators have disavowed it.

Pure crap wrapped is indecipherable, pseudo-scientific gobbldegook.

The Times should be ashamed.
 
SkepticalScience said:
Comparing the latest research from the fields of neuroscience, psychoanalytic psychology and quantum physics, Mayer and Jahn found some intriguing overlaps.
Research from psychoanalytic psychology?
I'd nominate this for the Oxymoron of the Month Award.
 
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Jeff Corey said:

Research from psychoanalytic psychology?
I'd nominate this for the Oxymoron of the Month Award.
You beat me to it. It is carp like this that makes people distrust psychology.
 
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Mercutio said:

It is carp like this that makes people distrust psychology.

Yes, fish often do that.

PS You have less than 60 minutes! :D
 
They even managed to work in
"string theory and quantum mechanics".
 
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Mercutio said:

You beat me to it. It is carp like this that makes people distrust psychology.
I find it pretty fishy myself.
Lox of luck.
 
Carp. Lox of luck.

Crowunit, I'll be lox and bagels is one of your favorite dishes.
Topped with cream cheese, and dotted with fishes.

:D
 
A psychology professor who has trouble grasping basic statistical issues?
 
This is good stuff. Explaining the paranormal through science by making science....paranormal :eek:. I wish I'd thought of, "Science can begin to explain the paranormal, because we think the mind can affect the physical world hooray!".
 
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BTox said:


Yes, fish often do that.

PS You have less than 60 minutes! :D
It wus intensional. I do'nt macke spelleng misteaks.
 
''Though we're still far from having evidence which proves it correct,'' Mayer notes in a public lecture she began giving this year, ''we can find tantalizing grounds on which to find it appealing.''
I think that any "scientist" that makes statements this asinine should be required to wear one of those fireman helmets that Radio Shack sells with the built-in siren, and the flashing light on top.... so you'd know they were coming, and you could get out of the way.

That statement basically translates as...

I don't have any proof of my claims, but I have compelling reasons to hope that they are true. :rolleyes:
 
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Mercutio said:
It wus intensional. I do'nt macke spelleng misteaks.

Are you Father Time in your avatar?
 
voidx said:
This is good stuff. Explaining the paranormal through science by making science....paranormal :eek:.
Been done.

I acknowledge Wipeout for first finding the definitive paper on making science paranormal.

(It makes better sense when you realise that the third author is a dedicated homoeopath.)

Rolfe.
 
I accuse you of Homoeopathophobia!

(nb. This is curable, but you must sign up for the full course of treatment, a snip at $12,000.00)
 
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tamiO said:

Are you Father Time in your avatar?
No, but that's a better story, anyway. That's me as Falstaff for halloween. I put it up now cuz it looks a bit like an evil santa. So...Father Time it is...or the Old Year, toward the end of this month....
 
I know you will all find this pretty disturbing... but I was just thinking about coincidences before I logged on here.

Frightening. Isn't it?
 
Since 1979, Jahn had amassed a mountain of data demonstrating people's ability to alter the outcome of a random event generator
And to think that guy could have a million bucks by now. Do you think anyone's told him?
 

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