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Clairvoyants in Denmark

CFLarsen

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Note: This thread is opened due to a wish from a Danish believer in paranormal phenomena. We have discussed various issues, and certain questions arose. For some reason, he didn't want to continue the discussion on that forum, but preferred to do it here.

Hello, fo_dk,

Do you think that you have an obligation to mankind to decide whether you have supernatural powers or not?

Why do you consider asking questions about paranormal phenomena and abilities equivalent to picking quarrels? Are questions equal to conflict in your book?
 
Hmmmm..."don't ask don't tell".

You can recall, Claus, the many conversations we have had with people that revolved around using their "powers" for financial gain or for an objective demonstration. If memory serves such displays violate the "rules" of the paranormal.

For those who were not around for the referenced discussions, the "rules" of the paranormal are a set of constraints that such behaviors operate under. Oddly, they seem to be a get out of jail free card when it comes to answering troublesome questions.
 
The interesting point about that discussion board, is that it did focus on a certain police-psychic - called Marion Dampier Jeans.

http://www.mariondampier-jeans.com/UK-index.htm

Marion claims to have become one of the "one of the acknowledged mediums in Great Britain."

- working with ectoplasm :

"In physical mediumship, the Spirit operators use this abundance of etheric energy, ectoplasm, and matter in order to produce the various manifestations. Through the directed use of mind, they release this energy-matter from the physical medium's body and use it. "

"Most often, but not always, the medium must be in a state of rather deep trance. This helps place the medium's mind on the sideline, this allowing the intelligence of the spirit to operate and work with the medium … "

Marion is attached to that board - but she has apparantly been in deep trance for weeks : at least for weeks she has refused to answer any question about her actions as a police-psychic.

In particular one case is interesting : - the Inger Kruse case - a sad, 25 years old story.

Back in the 70's - a young girl Inger Kruse did disappear - the family did suspect one of her friends to have killed her - but the police could neither find her body, nor did they put up any charges against him.

However - in a TV show - called "Sense for murdering" - mrs Jeans apparently confirms the accusations given by Ingers family - thus she points out a specific 3rd person as being the killer.

Very entertaining TV Show - indeed ?

In addition - she, another psychic have together with the local police been checking places where Inger Kruses body should have been buried ( in concrete).

Of course - that investigation gave no positive results.

It would be interesting to hear what mrs Jeans has to say about psychic identification of murderers.

In case mrs Jeans should wake up to answer our questions - we will give of summary of her replies at this webpage.

She will also be welcome to give a reply here - directly to JREF-s users.

best regards -


Mogens Winther

details - in Danish - http://www.skeptica.dk/2005/larsen2.htm
 
Mogens Winther said:
The interesting point about that discussion board, is that it did focus on a certain police-psychic - called Marion Dampier Jeans.

In addition - she, another psychic have together with the local police been checking places where Inger Kruses body should have been buried ( in concrete).

Of course - that investigation gave no positive results.

It would be interesting to hear what mrs Jeans has to say about psychic identification of murderers.

In case mrs Jeans should wake up to answer our questions - we will give of summary of her replies at this webpage.

She will also be welcome to give a reply here - directly to JREF-s users.

best regards -


Mogens Winther

details - in Danish - http://www.skeptica.dk/2005/larsen2.htm

Is there any source that these people have been working with the police other than they, themselves? That in itself is damning.
 
"Is there any source that these people have been working with the police other than they, themselves? That in itself is damning."

Unfortunately yes - there has been several interviews with a Danish Police officer - concerning the psychic search for Inger Kruses body.

Apparently - these psychichs on a combined tour discovered that she should have been buried into some concrete-building construction - at a local holiday-center.

This police officer even talked about the possibility of adding modern technology - probably some kind of sonar - which should be able to detect cavitys in concrete.

Of course - the end-result was negative.

I should add - the person being accused claims Inger Kruse has migrated to Finland - due to problems with her family.

Whatever the truth - it is interesting that psychics within this "Sense for murder" TV´shows in several cases apparently have been identifying specific persons as criminals.

This TV Show was described in http://www.randi.org/jr/042905some.html#16

best regards -


MW
 
There was a psychic (Claus will remember the details) that worked with the police here. I actually called the cop that was mentioned and he did, in fact work with the person in question. However, he was a bit of a fringe believer and he was disavowed by the Chief of police (don't know about Denmark but here local police departments are autonomous).

At one point I actually tracked down the "police organizations" that were cited as having worked with another psychic and dropped them notes (with quote) asking them for the real story. Not one responded.

The bottom line is that there are nuts in police departments (as everywhere else) and having had some association with law enforcement is not the same thing as "working with".

Oddly, we still have kids missing here. These people are goddamn vampires.
 
I'm afraid that we won't hear from the poster.

He has refused to participate here, and demands that I respond to him on a debate forum for aquarium enthusiasts.

:rolleyes:
 
CFLarsen said:
I'm afraid that we won't hear from the poster.

He has refused to participate here, and demands that I respond to him on a debate forum for aquarium enthusiasts.

:rolleyes:

That seems a little fishy to me.
 

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