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cities incorporating

gfunkusarelius

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here in metro atlanta there seems to be a trend of cities incorporating...it is such a trend that i am now getting a tingling sensation in my skeptic nerves...i dont really know anything about the subject, but it seems, sort of cynically i guess, like it might be benefitting the city officials a lot more than the residents. for decades one particular city fought to incorporate, their argument that they were way outside of the city of atlanta, but their money was going to pay lots of bills for the downtown atlanta area they they didnt benefit from...so it sort of made sense. but anyway, i am in a small town that seems fine and now they are talking about incorporating...what are they really after? or am i too cynical? ha
 
here in metro atlanta there seems to be a trend of cities incorporating...it is such a trend that i am now getting a tingling sensation in my skeptic nerves...i dont really know anything about the subject, but it seems, sort of cynically i guess, like it might be benefitting the city officials a lot more than the residents. for decades one particular city fought to incorporate, their argument that they were way outside of the city of atlanta, but their money was going to pay lots of bills for the downtown atlanta area they they didnt benefit from...so it sort of made sense. but anyway, i am in a small town that seems fine and now they are talking about incorporating...what are they really after? or am i too cynical? ha

Sorry if I sound a bit fussy, but I have done some work with incorporation issues and as such I am having real difficulty in following your post.

Most cities are already incorporated which means that they have an elected Mayor, Treasurer, Sherriff, have a city budget with city employees which is supported by a city tax levied on persons and/or businesses located within the city limits.

Or are you saying that the outlying areas are being annexed into the city of Atlanta?
I do not know about Georgia, but here in West Virginia it is fairly easy for a city to extend its boundaries, therefore annexations are periodically done.

Or are you saying that the outlying areas are incorporating and forming their own city governments that are separate from Atlanta?
Again, I cannot speak about Georgia, but here in West Virginia, it is fairly difficult for an unincorporated area to become an incorporated area.

There are some who find incorporation or annexation beneficial since doing so can lower property insurance costs due to a professional firefighting and police services being locally available. Also, incorporation can make the handling, installation, and upgrade of utilities much easier.

On the other hand, some do oppose incorporation and annexation because it raises taxes and imposes zoning restrictions.
 
I got to experience this first hand when I lived in Heber, UT. We lived in a rural area outside Heber. The area was called Daniel (or Daniels).

Daniel owned a spring, which provided all the culinary water to the people in Daniel. The spring was felt to be maxed out, so no new households were allowed to hook up to this culinary water; they had to drill wells. Heber, meanwhile, was rapidly running out of culinary water due to tremendous growth. They decided to annex Daniel because they really wanted that water and felt they could exploit to a greater extent than had been done, but since they knew it would not be a popular move, they sought to do the annexation in secret meetings. (And yes, that is illegal, but it was happening anyway.) Residents of Daniel found out, went door to door through the whole neighborhood, and we all sought alternatives.

One that was legal at that time was to become a "township" which was not a full town. In order to become a township, we had to have a ballot vote, and it had to pass by a "super majority" which means that over 50% of ALL REGISTERED VOTERS had to choose the township alternative. This was hard, as the voting registers actually had dead people, people who had moved etc. on the rolls. Nevertheless, the township passed. (And after Daniel became a township, townships were disallowed by the politicians in Utah.)

Now, why would the area not want to be annexed? Well, everyone in this rural area was either on the Daniel spring, or had their own well. Everyone had a septic tank. If the annexation had gone through, residents would have been forced to hook up to the Heber city sewer and water, at OUR expense. Our taxes would have gone up significantly. A lot of our choices would have been taken away from us. On the one hand, yes, we would have had such public services as garbage pick-up, street cleaning, paving of dirt roads, and sewer and water; but you see, the reason we all moved there was because we wanted to raise sheep or cows. We LIKED the dirt roads. If we had wanted to live in a city, we would have moved to one. Once the annexation took place, we would have all had to get rid of our livestock. The area would have changed completely, and for the worse, in my estimation.

Since my time, the area of Daniel has now incorporated into their own city. Again, this was to give the residents control over how their area was developed and what sort of community it became. As far as I know, the rural atmosphere has been preserved so far. The taxes went up slightly, but not much. The main reason the residents decided to incorporate was because once again, Heber was making annexation moves. The incorporation very effectively blocked Heber's efforts and has given the residents more say in their own future.

So it can depend on the situation but incorporation can be a very effective tool for residents of a particular area to frame what sort of community they would like to have.
 
Is GFA talking about de-annexation to become an independent city? In most states that is pretty difficult. But I think the above posts about incorporating answer GFA's question.
 
thanks for the info amapola...it seems like it would really make sense in certain situations. in this case, i have heard no persuasive arguments in my community. they said something about getting a deduction on your country club membershit, hahaha...anyway, i will keep my eyes open on the progress.
 

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