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Cheyney: Liar, or Moron?

ImaginalDisc

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WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney repeated his assertions of al-Qaida links to Saddam Hussein’s Iraq on Thursday as the Defense Department released a report citing more evidence that the prewar government did not cooperate with the terrorist group.

Cheney contended that al-Qaida was operating in Iraq before the March 2003 invasion led by U.S. forces and that terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was leading the Iraqi branch of al-Qaida. Others in al-Qaida planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

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However, a declassified Pentagon report released Thursday said that interrogations of the deposed Iraqi leader and two of his former aides as well as seized Iraqi documents confirmed that the terrorist organization and the Saddam government were not working together before the invasion.


The Sept. 11 Commission’s 2004 report also found no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam and Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network during that period.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17975678/

ETA: Darn it. I misspelled his name in the title.
 
Symbiosis: Cheney is the liar. His believers are the morons.
 
What did you expect, ImaginalDisc? There isn't a single thought from this group that is "out of the box," and this is just another example of, "staying the course."
 
I would think that reminding people that terrorists were able to freely operate only in the part of Iraq we were keeping Saddam from controlling sort of blows up the whole "removing Saddam from power was part of the war on terror" argument.
 
Haven't we been over this every time Cheney has said this?

A. There were links between some operatives and the Saddam goverment.
B. There was no working relationship between Bin Laden and Saddam
C. Iraq was not involved with 911

So the answer is, the moron is you. However, why Cheney keeps repeating this baffles me since the media spins it as "Cheney says Saddam was behind 911" every time he says it.
 
corplinx said:
However, why Cheney keeps repeating this baffles me since the media spins it as "Cheney says Saddam was behind 911" every time he says it.
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I thought the answer was fairly clear: “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."—”
 
Replying to my own post, Cheney must be a moron to keep saying it because the frequency of it means there some weight to it.

Saying there were links is like saying the Bush family had links Bin Laden. While technically true there is nothing substantive to it.
 
:jaw-dropp Did someone say link between Saddam and Osama?

http://www.alternet.org/audits/50156/

...The link between Hussein and Bin Laden was their banker, BCCI. But the link went beyond the dictator and the jihadist -- it passed through Saudi Arabia and stretched all the way to George W. Bush and his father.BCCI was the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, a dirty offshore bank that then-President Ronald Reagan's Central Intelligence Agency used to run guns to Hussein, finance Osama bin Laden, move money in the illegal Iran-Contra operation and carry out other "agency" black ops. The Bushes also benefited privately; one of the bank's largest Saudi investors helped bail out George W. Bush's troubled oil investments...
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Umm... there's no contradiction in the story between what it reports Cheney said and what it reports this new Pentagon report said. Zarqawi was in Iraq, and he was an Al Qaeda leader. That does not require that Saddam was actively helping Al Qaeda. Tolerating their presence is not the same thing as helping them, and the report gives no indication that Saddam did not tolerate their presence, or that Zarqawi and other Al Qaeda elements were not in Iraq. Geeze, this is REALLY basic logic, guys. Why is it slipping through your grasp?
 
corplinx said:
So the answer is, the moron is you. However, why Cheney keeps repeating this baffles me since the media spins it as "Cheney says Saddam was behind 911" every time he says it.
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From the article.

“He took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organized the al-Qaida operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June,” Cheney told radio host Rush Limbaugh during an interview.
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Corplinx: Liar, Moron, or Illiterate?
 
Ziggurat said:
Umm... there's no contradiction in the story between what it reports Cheney said and what it reports this new Pentagon report said. Zarqawi was in Iraq, and he was an Al Qaeda leader. That does not require that Saddam was actively helping Al Qaeda. Tolerating their presence is not the same thing as helping them, and the report gives no indication that Saddam did not tolerate their presence, or that Zarqawi and other Al Qaeda elements were not in Iraq. Geeze, this is REALLY basic logic, guys. Why is it slipping through your grasp?
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Zarqawi was in Kurdish Iraq. You seem to be grasping at straws.
 
Ziggurat said:
Tolerating their presence is not the same thing as helping them, and the report gives no indication that Saddam did not tolerate their presence, or that Zarqawi and other Al Qaeda elements were not in Iraq. Geeze, this is REALLY basic logic, guys. Why is it slipping through your grasp?
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Are you suggesting that Saddam knew the Al-Qaeda elements were in Iraq and were carrying out operations from within his country?
 
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