Cheney still defending previous administration

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In a speech challenging President Barack Obama's policies, Cheney said the national security decisions made by former President George W. Bush kept America safe and were rooted in a determination to ensure the Sept. 11 attacks didn't become "a prelude to something worse."

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Cheney:
we hear from some quarters nothing but feigned outrage based on a false narrative,"

The dried up old has-been has finally come up with a memorable quote. Unfortunately for him, I don't think it means what he thinks it means.
 
That might have to do with the fact that, as Carl Rove noted correctly, the Obama administration is now (thank God) for the most part following the Bush administration's anti-terrorism policy, although they're trying to make as much political hay as possible of minor differences.
 
That might have to do with the fact that, as Carl Rove noted correctly, the Obama administration is now (thank God) for the most part following the Bush administration's anti-terrorism policy, although they're trying to make as much political hay as possible of minor differences.

Given his track record, anything noted by Carl Rove is guaranteed to not be 'noted correctly'.
 
At this point, I almost expect Cheney to be defending the current administration. And in fact he is:

When President Obama makes wise decisions, as I believe he has done in some respects on Afghanistan, and in reversing his plan to release incendiary photos, he deserves our support.

Cheney might also mention favorably Obama's discussion of preventative detention and his willingness to use the military commissions.
 
What is Cheney still doing here? Hasn't he returned to his home planet yet? Maybe he left a robot in his place...
 
At first when I heard Cheney attacking Obama and Obama's decisions I thought what a nut and mean guy Cheney is. How horribly disrespectful and uncalled for it is for a former Vice President to do this to a sitting President.

But, then, after a few minutes of thinking about it I have come to see the genius in it. Yes, Cheney is a freaking genius. He is so brilliant that we are dwarfed by it.

Do you see why he is doing this? It is freaking amazing!

Nothing -- I mean nothing at all -- protects and defends the lives of Americans and American servicemen than Cheney going public and criticizing Obama's policies and practices as been careless and dangerous to the United States. It is perfect. It is simple just like many great ideas. Al Qaeda and our enemies might simply hesitate in attacking us again like another 9-11 because it would serve to prove Cheney and Bush right. Cheney, as it turns out, really does love the USA and want to protect us.
 
What is Cheney still doing here?

Cheney is done politically. He has nothing to lose. He can go on stage and use unfair misleading rhetoric. He isn't running for anything. Meanwhile, the Obama administration cedes ground to Cheney's positions.

I don't know what he is doing here, but it appears to be working.
 
Cheney is done politically. He has nothing to lose. He can go on stage and use unfair misleading rhetoric. He isn't running for anything. Meanwhile, the Obama administration cedes ground to Cheney's positions.

I don't know what he is doing here, but it appears to be working.

To be fair, in the sunken city that Cheney's home, all slopes are slippery.
 
Shouldn't this thread be called "Cheney still defending his administration".

Why wouldn't he? Wouldn't you if you thought you were right?
 
Not sure what Cheney's arguing against, since it would appear that Obama has largely adopted ChimpBusHitler's national security strategy:

Victor Davis Hanson
...there is no longer a Bush-did-it argument. The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq, Afghanistan — and now Guantánamo — are officially no longer part of the demonic Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld nexus, but apparently collective legitimate anti-terrorism measures designed to thwart killers, and by agreement, after years of observance, of great utility in keeping us safe the last eight years.

Jack Goldsmith:
The new administration has copied most of the Bush program, has expanded some of it, and has narrowed only a bit. Almost all of the Obama changes have been at the level of packaging, argumentation, symbol, and rhetoric.
 
AppleCorpEd,

Of course Cheney thinks he's right. He has no conscience, so torture, extraordinary rendition, waging war on false pretenses to get oil or spread our sphere of influence, and using blatant fear-mongering to terrorize us all into passivity are all acceptable to him, in fact in his mind, anything is justified as long as it works to his benefit.

Cheney will never experience remorse for what he did as he is simply incapable of feeling it. The only time he may ever feel remorse would be if he was held accountable for what he did, and it wouldn't be remorse for what he did, it would be remorse for being punished.


BPSCG,

That's a very good point, the new administration pretty much is following the Bush/Cheney playbook, and with his recently talking about preventative, indefinite detention for people who "pose a national security threat", has actually taken it a step further.

Obama was simply more clever in promising us change, being more charming and charismatic, and doing a few good acts such as releasing some memos from the past administration, and telling us he's going to shut Gitmo down to get us all to feel hope and trust in him before doing all the same crap that Bush/Cheney did (and with the preventative detention policy is taking it a step further).


INRM
 
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Whenever I hear Cheney speaking now, it just feels like the whitehouse is haunted. Or a Scrooge-like story arc is unfolding, with Cheney in the role of the morbid spirit. It makes me wonder who will drop in as the other roles.
 
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Cheney still believes that the courses of action the Bush administration took were right. (Whether they were or not you can debate elsewhere.) That sorta makes sense, as he was deeply involved in the decision making. I'd be stunned if he did a flip flop and spoke out in criticism of what he was involved in doing.

Corplinx is right: he's done, so he has nothing to lose by speaking out. Given his laconic history, though, I am a bit surprised he's sounding off like this.

DR
 

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