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Cheney 'Outraged' that Bush Wouldn't Pardon Libby

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Ex-VP Dick Cheney outraged President Bush didn't grant 'Scooter' Libby full pardon

Apparantly Cheney didn't always get his way with Bush.

BY Thomas M. Defrank
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

Updated Tuesday, February 17th 2009, 11:00 AM

WASHINGTON - In the waning days of the Bush administration, Vice President Dick Cheney launched a last-ditch campaign to persuade his boss to pardon Lewis (Scooter) Libby - and was furious when President George W. Bush wouldn't budge.

Sources close to Cheney told the Daily News the former vice president repeatedly pressed Bush to pardon Libby, arguing his ex-chief of staff and longtime alter ego deserved a full exoneration - even though Bush had already kept Libby out of jail by commuting his 30-month prison sentence.

"He tried to make it happen right up until the very end," one Cheney associate said.

In multiple conversations, both in person and over the telephone, Cheney tried to get Bush to change his mind. Libby was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in the federal probe of who leaked covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to the press.

Several sources confirmed Cheney refused to take no for an answer. "He went to the mat and came back and back and back at Bush," a Cheney defender said. "He was still trying the day before Obama was sworn in."

After repeatedly telling Cheney his mind was made up, Bush became so exasperated with Cheney's persistence he told aides he didn't want to discuss the matter any further.

The unsuccessful full-court press left Cheney bitter. "He's furious with Bush," a Cheney source told The News. "He's really angry about it and decided he's going to say what he believes."

He did just that the day after becoming a private citizen. In an interview with The Weekly Standard, Cheney heaped praise on Libby and denounced his conviction. "He was the victim of a serious miscarriage of justice, and I strongly believe that he deserved a presidential pardon," Cheney said. "Obviously, I disagree with President Bush's decision."

I have to say that this is one thing I respect Bush for. At least he didn't just pardon his cronies or powerful well-connected people (like Marc Rich). Classier than a certain previous administration.
 
Ex-VP Dick Cheney outraged President Bush didn't grant 'Scooter' Libby full pardon

Apparantly Cheney didn't always get his way with Bush.



I have to say that this is one thing I respect Bush for. At least he didn't just pardon his cronies or powerful well-connected people (like Marc Rich). Classier than a certain previous administration.
Bush didn't pardon a single member of his administration because he didn't feel the need to do so it's just that simple. He pissed off a lot of conservatives for not pardoning the two border agents and just commuted their prison sentences the same as Libby. I can't remember a single pardon he issued as Governor.
 
Maybe Bush felt the pardon's should only be reserved for cases where it's actually justified, as opposed to abusing it to return political favors to people.
 
Bush didn't pardon a single member of his administration because he didn't feel the need to do so it's just that simple. He pissed off a lot of conservatives for not pardoning the two border agents and just commuted their prison sentences the same as Libby. I can't remember a single pardon he issued as Governor.

Apparantly he pardoned 16 as governor of Texas and 190 as president. FWIW.
 
Maybe Bush felt the pardon's should only be reserved for cases where it's actually justified, as opposed to abusing it to return political favors to people.
That's my take. It also flies in the face of accusations that he is covering up war crimes and such.
 
Maybe Bush felt the pardon's should only be reserved for cases where it's actually justified, as opposed to abusing it to return political favors to people.

Yes, that's about what he has said. Like I said, it was classier than a certain other recent administration. I'm no fan of Bush, but I will grant him that.
 
Apparantly he pardoned 16 as governor of Texas and 190 as president. FWIW.
I am surprised it was that many as governor. The pardons he gave as president was curiously were tilted towards drug offenses. I guess he felt a bit guilty about his younger and wilder days and being from Houston I can tell you that he was wild.
 
I was actually impressed in a bizarre way when George Bush was governor of Texas and he refused to commute the sentence of that woman who killed those people with a pickaxe, even though she was female and a real Charlie Church, and influential jerks like Jerry Falwell wanted him to.
 
So Falwell wanted her pardoned because she was now saved in the eyes of God, and going to Heaven, so she could stick around on Earth longer, risking a relapse and going to hell?

And he would have wanted her executed if she was not saved in the eyes of God, and going to Hell, and thus killing her now ensures going to Hell?



Come on, you're making this up!
 
That's my take. It also flies in the face of accusations that he is covering up war crimes and such.

Doubful since pardoning anyone for things related to that would mean admitting their was a problem.

Heh of course the is the alturnative way of reading it that by the end of his presidency bush was so unpopular even with the republican eastablishment that he didn't feel that he owed anyone any pardons to pay off favors.
 
So Falwell wanted her pardoned because she was now saved in the eyes of God, and going to Heaven, so she could stick around on Earth longer, risking a relapse and going to hell?

And he would have wanted her executed if she was not saved in the eyes of God, and going to Hell, and thus killing her now ensures going to Hell?

Come on, you're making this up!

Interesting point. :D

Karla Faye Tucker

Tucker entered a plea of not guilty and was jailed awaiting trial. She took a Bible from the prison ministry program and read it in her cell. She later recalled, "I didn't know what I was reading and before I knew it, I was just -- I was in the middle of my floor on my knees and I was just asking God to forgive me."[4] She later claimed that her new faith gave her the strength to endure her trial and sentencing.[5]

In the spring of 1984, she confessed to the murders and implicated Garrett. During Tucker's trial, a tape recorded by Garrett's brother while wearing a wire was played on which she claimed that she had multiple orgasms during the killings.
. . .
Tucker requested that her life be spared on the basis that she now opposed capital punishment, abortion and euthanasia.[citation needed] Her plea drew support from abroad and also from some leaders of American conservatism. Among those who appealed to the State of Texas on her behalf were Waly Bacre Ndiaye, the United Nations commissioner on summary and arbitrary executions; the World Council of Churches; Pope John Paul II; Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi; the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Newt Gingrich; televangelist Pat Robertson; and Ron Carlson, the brother of Tucker's murder victim Debbie Thornton. The warden of Texas's Huntsville prison testified that she was a model prisoner and that, after 14 years on death row, she likely had been reformed.[citation needed] The board turned her down on January 28, 1998.

In the year following her execution, conservative commentator Tucker Carlson questioned Governor Bush about how the Board of Pardons and Parole had arrived at the determination on her clemency plea. Carlson alleged that Bush, alluding to a televised interview which Karla Faye Tucker had given to talk show host Larry King, smirked and spoke mockingly about her:[8]

In the weeks before the execution, Bush says, "A number of protesters came to Austin to demand clemency for Karla Faye Tucker." "Did you meet with any of them?" I ask. Bush whips around and stares at me. "No, I didn't meet with any of them", he snaps, as though I've just asked the dumbest, most offensive question ever posed. "I didn't meet with Larry King either when he came down for it. I watched his interview with Tucker, though. He asked her real difficult questions like, 'What would you say to Governor Bush?'" "What was her answer?" I wonder. "'Please,'" Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "'don't kill me.'" I must have looked shocked — ridiculing the pleas of a condemned prisoner who has since been executed seems odd and cruel — because he immediately stops smirking.

Journalist Carlson followed up on Bush's remark by reviewing a videotape of the interview on Larry King's show. Carlson found that Tucker had in fact not uttered the entreaty, "Please don't kill me" or words to that effect.[9]

I know that the pope is opposed to the death penalty in principle, but I wonder about these other people like Newt Gingrich and Tucker Carlson. Is it just because she made a convincing show of finding Jesus?

At least Bush wasn't like Mike Huckabee, who was a sucker for these alleged religious converts.
Huckabee has come under criticism for his handling of the case of Wayne DuMond (also spelled Dumond), a convicted rapist who was released during Huckabee's governorship. Despite a crude castration and a professed religious conversion in prison, DuMond subsequently sexually assaulted and murdered a woman in Missouri.[20]
 
It's hard to tell with the overtake of Congress by democrats and whatnot, but it does appear to me that Bush became much more independent from Cheney in his last 2-3 years of office, and thereby transformed from being vicious, wrong and incompetent, to merely wrong and incompetent. Mind you, I'm not saying stupid. Just wrong and incompetent!
 
All I know is, George W. Bush pardoned a Fugee, and Clinton never did. So, score one for W.

Seriously, though - does anyone really believe that all of Clinton's pardons were political favors, or that none of Bush's were? I guess if someone wants to go through the homework of investigating over 300 pardon recipients, we could see if it's true, but it doesn't pass my gut test. Clinton has one famous pardon, that was from all appearances a political favor. Bush has, as far as I'm aware, no famous pardons. Not a lot to go on.

At least Bush did not pardon people like Marc Rich. :D

This is what I mean. Of course, Bush didn't pardon Marc Rich. But do we know that he didn't pardon people like Marc Rich? I don't know that. It kind of strains credibility. But... it might be true.
 
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All I know is, George W. Bush pardoned a Fugee, and Clinton never did. So, score one for W.

Seriously, though - does anyone really believe that all of Clinton's pardons were political favors, or that none of Bush's were? I guess if someone wants to go through the homework of investigating over 300 pardon recipients, we could see if it's true, but it doesn't pass my gut test. Clinton has one famous pardon, that was from all appearances a political favor. Bush has, as far as I'm aware, no famous pardons. Not a lot to go on.

Well there is him commuting the setances of felons who worked for him.
 

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