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Catholics Are At It Again

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O'Reily asks:

What Would Jesus Do?
In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, a disturbing report out of Eugene, Oregon. A four-year-old girl is not able to attend the O'Hara Catholic School because her parents are lesbians. The girl was adopted by the women, but church authorities out there say the lifestyles of her guardians are not acceptable to them.
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I have problems with a lot of O'Reily's crap, but I believe he's right, in jumping on this...
 
Why would they want their daughter to be taught that homosexual behaviour is a sin and that homosexuals are deviants?

What will this do to the little girl? She will be made to choose between God and her parents. Oh my.

I know your question was about whether the school has a right not to admit her. I agree that Jesus would welcome the little girl. But what Jesus would do and what Christians do are rarely related, or so it seems to me.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.
 
It reminds of the time Ian McKellen was on SNL and during his monologue, he pointed out that gays were not allowed to participate in the annual St Patrick's Day Parade, however they did not have any problem with all those Catholic Preists!

Go figure!
 
Im sure they allow children of divorced parents to attend. Thats just as much as a sin as being gay.

I went to catholic school and I dont ever remember the nuns talking about homosexuality. Sure we had the whole Soddom and Gamora story, but catholic schools are know for avoiding anything having to do wh sex.
 
Cristina said:
Why would they want their daughter to be taught that homosexual behaviour is a sin and that homosexuals are deviants?

What will this do to the little girl? She will be made to choose between God and her parents. Oh my.

I know your question was about whether the school has a right not to admit her. I agree that Jesus would welcome the little girl. But what Jesus would do and what Christians do are rarely related, or so it seems to me.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.
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You make some excellent points..

I have also questioned why people who want a same sex marriage ceremony are so intent on having a Church ordain their union.. If we seek legitimacy from an institution that does not share our beliefs, what does it say about the strength of those beliefs and what our motivation is?


We have two sides here, that are putting their agenda above the welfare of this child..
 
Diogenes said:
I have problems with a lot of O'Reily's crap, but I believe he's right, in jumping on this...
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I heard him talking about this on his radio show. His advice to the mothers was that they should have never labeled themselves as lesbians and there would have never been a problem. Basically, he told them to stay in the closet.

What one of the mothers tried to get across to O'Reilly was that they hadn't explicitly told anyone at the school that they were gay, it was just fairly easy to figure out since the there were two women listed as the girl's parents. And the girl calls one "Mom" and the other one "Mama". It was my impression that O'Reilly was trying to blame the mothers for the issue because they were being open about their relationship.

He then talked about he doesn't flaunt his sexuality in public. I wonder how pissed his wife must be if he never holds her hand in public or brings her flowers, etc. :rolleyes:
 
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Upchurch said:
I heard him talking about this on his radio show. His advice to the mothers was that they should have never labeled themselves as lesbians and there would have never been a problem. Basically, he told them to stay in the closet.

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O'Reilly has an ongoing problem with this concept, and he's not amenable to training.

I've heard him address the gay marraige issue with the dismissal that what people do in their bedrooms is their own business, but why do they have to make it our business. He misses the point that in order for a couple to live their lives normally, they present themselves to the world as a couple in a million ways, big and small, and what goes on "in the bedroom" as nothing to do with most of it. A good example is putting a child in school. If straight parents together take their child to register for school, they're not considered to be flaunting what goes on in their bedroom. Why can't gay couples get the same pass?
 
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Catholics are always at it, and without birth control!
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I heard O'Reilly interview the priest who is the principal of the school. O'Reilly asked him if turning the girl away is What Jesus Would Do, and the priest said yes, Jesus would not want the girl in that situation.

I read most of the bible some years ago, and I don't seem to recall the passage where Jesus said "Suffer the little children to come unto me, but not if their parents are big fans of Xena, Warrior Princess."

Also, the Catholic church believes that homosexuality is not a sin, but acting on it is. I wonder if they bothered to ask the mothers whether or not they engage in sex?

Their doctrine also teaches that divorce is not allowed, and remarriage is even worse (unless you are a king), and yet they let children from families in these situations attend the school.

They mentioned on the show that since it was a private school, they could admit and reject anyone they wanted. Is this true? Could they (for example) say "only white kids allowed", and get away with it? Then again, I guess they can say "only Catholic kids allowed."
 
RSLancastr said:
They mentioned on the show that since it was a private school, they could admit and reject anyone they wanted. Is this true? Could they (for example) say "only white kids allowed", and get away with it? [/B]
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It's called a private school for a reason.
 
Lots of people send their kids to catholic school because its a better education. The religious part is really minimal. We had religion class, and prayers before school and lunch but that was about it. Most of the schooling is secular subjects. As students we were never that much into the religion. Its not like we hung out in the schoolyard talking about Jesus. LOL we played football instead.
 
The rate of homosexuality within the Church is higher than among the normal population, go figure.
 
Upchurch said:
He mentioned the aunts on the radio show too. Interestingly, he mentioned that people didn't know if they were lesbians or not.
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Great. He's practically outing his own aunts on national radio. I hope they pull him by the ear at the next family gathering.
 
RSLancastr said:
Understood, but even private businesses are bound by federal equal opportunity laws, aren't they?
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As far as I know, a school can claim to be part of a church and through "Freedom of Religion" can exclude whomever they want.
 
RSLancastr said:
Understood, but even private businesses are bound by federal equal opportunity laws, aren't they?
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Yes, but they shouldn't be. I dont know if there are simular laws for schools though.
 
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I went to a public high school, but my senior year I participated in a city educational project where all but two of the fifty students in the program were were from the local Catholic high school.

The kids from the catholic high school were drinkingest, most sexually active kids i had ever met.

My guess is, it was from all that oppression/repression that they were under at school. When they were away from it, they went wild.

This was ONE of the reasons I didn't let my kids attend catholic school, as my then-wife wanted.

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