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"Capitalism is Evil" - Michael Moore.

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Capitalism is evil. That is the conclusion U.S. documentary maker Michael Moore comes to in his latest movie "Capitalism: A Love Story," which premieres at the Venice film festival Sunday.

"Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil," the two-hour movie concludes.
"You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."

Moore even features priests who say capitalism is anti-Christian by failing to protect the poor.


Amid the gloom, Moore detects the beginnings of a popular movement against unbridled capitalism, and believes President Barack Obama's rise to power may bolster it.


http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE5850F320090906

Evil?
 
As usual, Moore takes the extreme position in order to make a point. He has a point, but by being extremist about it he alienates as many people as he convinces.

I used to like what he did, but I think he tries too hard.
 
I'm not saying Michael Moore is right or wrong or part right but if he really thinks capitalism is evil, why doesn't he give up his millions and his several corporations?

And stop publishing his books and producing his movies through firms?

AND GIVE UP HIS HOLDINGS IN STOCK!
 
Without an extreme position, we never would have heard of M. Moore.
Or Rush L.
 
EeneyMinnieMoe said:
I'm not saying Michael Moore is right or wrong or part right but if he really thinks capitalism is evil, why doesn't he give up his millions and his several corporations?

And stop publishing his books and producing his movies through firms?

AND GIVE UP HIS HOLDINGS IN STOCK!
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No, no, no... it's only evil when other people do it.
 
"You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."
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Wait... Michael Moore's final conclusion is that the replacement for capitalism is... democracy????

Is it frightening to anyone else that he apparently doesn't know the difference between a political system and an economic one?
 
Something I've noticed is that rich people love to tell poor people that making money is wrong.
 
ARubberChickenWithAPulley said:
Wait... Michael Moore's final conclusion is that the replacement for capitalism is... democracy????

Is it frightening to anyone else that he apparently doesn't know the difference between a political system and an economic one?
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But I bet he knows the difference between fried chicken and broccoli.
 
Radicals like Moore are good at finding weak points in capitalism but not at pointing out a realistic alternative.

Chomsky is much more interesting - he points out that the US actually doesn't have capitalism since the 20:s but a half-tax subsidised, half capitalist "mixed-economy" just like Sweden had during its successful years up until the 80´s. What pisses Chomsky off is that the U.S. version of industrial subsidy economy concentrates its subsidies on the military industry and that the bosses and owners of that industry have an incestual relationship to U.S. politics.

In comparison, Moore is just like my little Chihuahua - barking away at dogs and people without knowing what he wants to do if someone asks him what he actually wants.
 
"Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil," the two-hour movie concludes.
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Weeeeelllllllllllllll, capitalism is evil except for the small part of it that allowed Michael Moore to become a millionaire. Somehow, he has no problem with that. You know, just like Coulter hates disgusting liberal policies, except for those which emancipated women and let her go out of the kitchen to law school, for instance.

As Nietzsche said, a propagandist is successful as long as people think he believes what he says. Quite apart from the stupidity of their arguments, both Moore and Coulter had long passed the point where anybody think they themselves believes what they say.
 
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ARubberChickenWithAPulley said:
Wait... Michael Moore's final conclusion is that the replacement for capitalism is... democracy????

Is it frightening to anyone else that he apparently doesn't know the difference between a political system and an economic one?
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Thank you. I used to be a Michael Moore fan (FTR: I used to be a Rush Limbaugh fan also).

Color me disillusioned. Never mind that capitalism was a.) the economic power that provided money to governments to solve many health and food supply problems. b.) directly solved many health and food supply problems.

I'm an Ayn Rand fan but not a fan of objectivism nor am I a strict libertarian or capitalist. I'm a pragmatic libertarian. If some degree of socialism works then I think it good. All of the top nations for HDI rely on a mix of capitalism and socialism.

Sounds like the best system to me. If I had to choose between pure socialism and pure capitalism I'd have to go with pure capitalism.

Fortunately that would be a false dichotomy. :)

Moore is an ass.
 
ARubberChickenWithAPulley said:
Wait... Michael Moore's final conclusion is that the replacement for capitalism is... democracy????

Is it frightening to anyone else that he apparently doesn't know the difference between a political system and an economic one?
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Maybe he's conflating capitalism and plutocracy. Or maybe he thinks his audience is too stupid to know the difference. Or maybe he is.

Maybe I should start a poll.
 
"Michael Moore is a big, fat idiot" - Whiplash

(I know this goes against my rants about personal attacks and mockery, I'm joking around a bit here)
 
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I haven't sat through an entire Moore piece, but what I have seen, and from interviews I've seen, Moore provides a very shallow and sloppy critique of what ever subject he is handling. I say this as a lefty, but... even though Moore may not be 100% wrong, he makes his position look bad to anyone with half a brain.
 
In retrospect, I feel I was out of line with my statement, but I'll leave it intact rather than try to hide it. But I retract it.

I was only thinking of parodying the thread title.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
This movie doesn't tell us anything that we didn't already know about Michael Moore.
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No; but at least he's explicit about it in this movie, unlike the others where he asks you to "draw your own conclusion" based on a cherry-picked set of facts and quotes arranged specifically to lead you to only one logical conclusion.
 
applecorped said:
Evil?
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As far as I can tell from the news story, the designation "evil" comes about because capitalism doesn't set out to act in the public interest, and so there are several examples where capitalism works against it.

That much would be true . . . but you can regulate against it, and should do if the (public) benefit is worth it to society.

But really, "evil" ought to mean setting out to act against public interest as a mission in itself, I would think. And I don't see anything approaching a statement that this is what capitalism does, that is: intends to do.
 
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