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Can a Christian have a demon?

Holy crap!

Did you check out the results of that poll?

I guess that's why they call it beliefnet.
 
Did you vote?

I wish they had a clear "there is no devil/demon" option.

I'm sure the author would label most of us "demon possessed"
 
TruthSeeker said:
Did you vote?
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Actually, I liked both the third and forth options. I mean the concept of evil anthropomorphized has been around for centuries so the metaphor thing works for me, as well as the fact that doing so creates dangerous and unjust hostilities towards people.

I eventually clicked on the fourth option.
 
That's what I chose as well.

I agree about the metaphor, but I don't like the idea of human nature being inherently evil which that option oh-so-subtly implies.
 
Heh....Silly devil. Possesing people. BRING THE FLAMES, WUSS!


...Sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine that if the devil can possess people, he doesn't do it RIGHT.
 
Andonyx said:


Actually, I liked both the third and forth options. I mean the concept of evil anthropomorphized has been around for centuries so the metaphor thing works for me, as well as the fact that doing so creates dangerous and unjust hostilities towards people.

I eventually clicked on the fourth option.
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I clicked that one too!
 
From the article:

When we ministered deliverance, we frequently prayed for people we knew were born-again, Spirit-filled believers--and they manifested demons!
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Nowhere in the article is this interesting phrase explained. Exactly what does it mean to manifest a demon? Apparently the manifestation of demons is so utterly ordinary and ocommonplace the author doesn't even feel the need to explain it.

What an extraordinary world lives inside these people's heads...

Also from the article:
Or demons may be inherited from a previous generation through a person's bloodline.
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:mad: What a horrible world lives inside these people's heads!
 
Yahzi said:
Nowhere in the article is this interesting phrase explained. Exactly what does it mean to manifest a demon?
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My guess is that's when the annoyed subject says "will you PUHleeze stop (*&(*&*( whining over me, get up, take your hands apart, (*&(*& leave me (*&(* alone you ()*&(*(&(*&(*&"
 
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I had a friend who went for pastoral counselling. She was trying to figure out the reasons behind her bad relationship and career choices and why she was so unhappy. The pastor told her that she had probably inherited the demon that was on her grandmother and that she was being punished for her grandmother's sins.

Oh my.

This was a Christian church. Does anyone know whether in Buddhism, karma also passes down generations like this?

Thanks
 
I've been trying to register so that I can ask the question about what the manifestation of demons looks like...but I am having trouble activating my account.

Perhaps this is the work of my own demon. Damn :mad: :roll:
 
Ok, it's done.

I read this article with great interest. I was wondering if any of the members here could help with the following question:

The author states that the Christians "manifested demons" Nowhere in the article is this phrase explained. Exactly what does it mean to manifest a demon?

Are there particular behaviours? thoughts? words? that suggest a person is manifesting a demon? In other words, what would one look out for in others and in oneself?

Thanks.
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I'll keep you updated on the responses I receive (if any)
 
According to the Bible, Jesus believed that mental illness was caused by demons. (This is mentioned on the beliefnet page, but you might have to scroll down past a South Beach Diet ad showing a girl in her underwear to read about Jesus.)

Two thousand years ago, this belief might have qualified as "reasonable." If you've ever met someone who has a serious mental illness, you can understand immediately how primitive people might have concluded that the mentally ill were possessed by demons.

The belief does not qualify as reasonable today, however. Mental illness, even though not fully understood, is understood today as having non-demonic roots.
 
We couldn't question our experience because we knew what we were seeing. So we began to question our theology.
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Brilliant deduction! You'd think that somehow both experience and theology were questionable but thanks to uh... previous experience with demons? ... It seems as though they are just assigning the label "demonic" to maldies with other, more valid causes.

I often ask those who are skeptical of demon possession whether or not cancer is demonic. Most will agree that sickness is of the devil. So then, I continue, is cancer inside the body, or is there something on the outside that's the problem? If it isn't on the inside, doctors probably wouldn't cut people open trying to remove it. Evidently, as a Christian, you can have something in you that is possessing a certain organ of your body and is not of God.
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By the power of close observation, he has found the cause and the cure for cancer! He didn't find God inside a cancer cell, therefore HE SAW THE DEVIL!! He's smarter than all the doctors in the world, thanks to whatever he uses as a substitute for logic.
 
Brown said:
According to the Bible, Jesus believed that mental illness was caused by demons. (This is mentioned on the beliefnet page, but you might have to scroll down past a South Beach Diet ad showing a girl in her underwear to read about Jesus.)

Two thousand years ago, this belief might have qualified as "reasonable." If you've ever met someone who has a serious mental illness, you can understand immediately how primitive people might have concluded that the mentally ill were possessed by demons.

The belief does not qualify as reasonable today, however. Mental illness, even though not fully understood, is understood today as having non-demonic roots.
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Brown,
Couldn't agree with you more. The "demonic" explanation for mental illness was dominant for many centuries but we have progressed from there considerably

However, the author of this article and many of those who commented on it seem to be stuck in superstitious way of thinking which completely disregards what we now know.

Did you read the comments? The implication of some is that there are "demons" behind even a bad habit or negative character trait. Perhaps attributing all flaws to demons removes responsibility.

Amazingly, they do not seem bothered that the all-powerful Jesus cannot protect them from demon possession. How very odd that an all-loving saviour would allow this to happen to those who trust him.

I don't get it but I am fascinated by it.
 
I've posted more than once that they not only can have a demon but that demon is indispensible to their religion.
Atheism says no woo-woo of any kind, good or bad. If you've got proof of the woo-woo put up or shut up.
Agnosticism allows for the remote possibility of a supreme force but most likely nothing depicted in religion/mythology.
I am firmly convinced that if you put a true woo-woo of any religion up against the wall they'd kill and die before they'd give up their precious demon that they need to save themselves and everyone else from.
 
justsaygnosis said:
I've posted more than once that they not only can have a demon but that demon is indispensible to their religion.
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I'd agree with this in part. There are some sects of Christianity to whom demons are an essential part. Never mind that there is not one shread of evidence that demons exist; the Bible says that they do, and therefore they do. A similar "logic" pertains to belief in all of the orders of angels.

However, not all sects of Christianity buy into that nonsense.
 
I'd rather have an angel than a demon but only if she didn't insist on all that harp music!

Why does God need all this help? Why can't he just wipe out demons? I don't get it.
 
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