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Browne wrong again- John Slayton

EeneyMinnieMoe

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Gotta break my own rule for a moment (trust me, it's good)-

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WILLIAMS: Absolutely. Well, you know, my first guest says that she's completely baffled by the strange disappearance of her grandfather. Take a look at this.

(Excerpt from videotape)

BRANDI: On December 10th of last year, my grandfather disappeared without a trace. He is an independent jeweler, and at the time of his disappearance, he had a large amount of jewelry in his SUV. Three days later, the police found his vehicle abandoned with a few pieces of jewelry left inside. There are no leads or any suspects. My family misses him so much. Sylvia, can you give us any information as to what happened that day and where he is?

(End of excerpt)

WILLIAMS: Please welcome Brandi and her--and Vicki to the show. Thank you both very much for being here. And--and, Brandi, if you can, sum it up. What happened to your grandfather? He was a jeweler who was out on the road, right? He--and he would go to various pawn shops, buying and exchanging jewelry?

BRANDI: Correct, he was an independent jeweler, and he was out making his rounds, selling and trading, buying diamonds, buying watches. And he had the regular, normal jewelry business.

Ms. BROWNE: Two--Can I?

WILLIAMS: Go right ahead.

Ms. BROWNE: Two--I don't know what--I don't know--the old word is hobos. Two men followed him because they knew he was a jeweler. He was also carrying diamonds on him. Are you aware of that?

WILLIAMS: Right.

BRANDI: Yes.

WILLIAMS: Yeah. Matter of fact, he had about $1 million worth of diamonds in jewelry on him.

Ms. BROWNE: Dollars worth of diamonds, yeah. They waylaid him, took--they--yeah, like it said in the film thing here--that they left a few. That was to show, you know, sort of like good faith, but they took everything he had. He had even diamonds in a little brown bag that he carried, with a little drawstring. Do you see what I mean? They took that. And then they literally loaded him and threw him in water.

VICKIE: Do you know where?

Ms. BROWNE: I don't know where the water is close to there, but it's a big body of water.

VICKI: In Missouri, we do have a lot of rivers, a lot of...

Ms. BROWNE: But you have the Caw?

VICKI: Right.

Ms. BROWNE: So it's right on the Caw.

VICKI: On--on the Caw?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, the Caw. The Caw meets the Missouri River.

VICKI: Do you have any idea, like--it's been two months, but any idea when they will find his body, or...

BRANDI: When will this case be solved?

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, honey, that is such a terrible--you know that even the Missouri River is such a terrible muddy, horrible river. I--I swear to God to you, there's no way.

VICKI: Any idea who these people are?

Ms. BROWNE: These were people--this--these were--were what you call...

WILLIAMS: Indigents.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, indigents, robbers, they were hobos.

VICKI: My dad didn't know them?

Ms. BROWNE: No. But they knew him. They had heard--because everybody knew your--knew him. Everybody knew what he did.

VICKI: Does somebody out there know something, but they just not come forward?

Ms. BROWNE: I don't think that these indigents are gonna tell anybody.

WILLIAMS: Would they--now those indigents would have to try to move that...

Ms. BROWNE: They would try to fence them. They would try to fence it.

WILLIAMS: Now would somebody could be--is there a place that maybe they can go looking at some pawn shops or--well, if it's a fence, then...

Ms. BROWNE: Do you know what I would do, though, if I were you? I would go to a place called h--or try to get a hold of a place called Helzbergs. Now they wouldn't deal in anything that was bad, but ask them if they haven't been approached. 'Cause these people are so stupid, they would go into a Zales or a reputable place--Do you see what I mean?--and try to fence it. And no reputable place, but--call a place called Helzbergs and see.

WILLIAMS: Go check on that name or anything--a derivation of that name in that city.

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

VICKI: One more thing. Do--will they ever be caught?

Ms. BROWNE: I think so, because I think if you go this jewelry store...

VICKI: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: ...I think they will tell you that, 'Oh, yeah, these two guys came in,' you know, or maybe they might even have a camera--Do you see what I mean?--because sometimes these places date their tapes way back.

VICKI: Right.

BRANDI: At this store, is it gonna be in the Kansas City area, or the St. Louis area?

Ms. BROWNE: No, I'm pretty sure it's in the Kansas City area. That's why I was so convinced--see, that's why it hit me right between the eyes because, see, that's where I'm from. That's why it was so familiar to me.

VICKI: Oh. OK.

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http://web.lexis-nexis.com.proxy.we...b-zSkVb&_md5=bc4e60407288f0e3ce4a4cd74ac9f1ee

St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri)

April 25, 2006 Tuesday
THIRD EDITION
SECTION: METRO; Pg. B5

LENGTH: 310 words

HEADLINE: Jefferson County pawnbroker gets life plus 20 years in murder of jeweler John Slayton was beaten to death in the back room of a pawnshop near Arnold.

BYLINE: By Tim Rowden ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

DATELINE: HILLSBORO

BODY:


Teddy Eugene Davison Jr. was sentenced to life plus 20 years behind bars Monday for the fatal beating and robbery of a mid-Missouri jeweler.

Prosecutors said Davison, 41, a pawnbroker, planned with his son to murder John R. Slayton and steal his inventory and then recruited his nephew, Michael Davison, to help them dispose of the body.

Slayton, 63, of Osage Beach, Mo., was reported missing Dec. 10, 2002, after he visited Davison's shop, near Arnold.

An independent jewelry dealer, Slayton regularly visited area pawnshops as part of his business. His remains were recovered June 1, 2003, in a shallow grave near Valles Mines, in far south-central Jefferson County.

Slayton had $750,000 to $1 million worth of jewelry and diamonds in his possession when he disappeared. Although police recovered most of the inventory, prosecutors said $50,000 worth of jewelry was melted down and sold and $250,000 worth of diamonds remained missing.

After a two-day trial last month in Hillsboro, a jury found Davison guilty of murdering Slayton.

At the trial, Davison's son, Eric Davison, who was 16 at the time of the killing, testified that he had struck Slayton in the head with a baseball bat. Eric Davison said his father then dragged Slayton into a back room, where Teddy Davison beat him with a flashlight before striking a fatal blow to Slayton's forehead with the butt of a shotgun.

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Other details from the article: this kid Eric says he cooperated cause he feared his father would kill him, too and the victim also had another daughter from Arnold called Jonette McGuire.
 
From another article:

http://web.lexis-nexis.com.proxy.we...b-zSkVb&_md5=5398af7a7f9e2d479aa76bd47c2deaa1

TIP LEADS POLICE TO BODY IN JEFFERSON COUNTY; REMAINS MAY BE THOSE OF MISSING JEWELER FROM OSAGE BEACH, MO., St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri), June 3, 2003 Tuesday Five Star Late Lift Edition, METRO; Pg. B1, 313 words, Tim Rowden Of The Post-Dispatch

"The decomposed remains were found wrapped in plastic in a heavily wooded area near Highways 67 and V north of the St. Francois County line, about 40 miles from where Slayton's car was recovered."

"The International Watch Jewelry Guild posted a $100,000 reward and the Missouri Pawn Brokers Association posted a $10,000 reward for tips leading to the conviction of anyone responsible for Slayton's disappearance."




 
So Sylvia's only hits were the obvious facts of what he was carrying. NOT two hobos. Not in water. Open and shut: WRONG!

I'm sure it's more excellent article fodder for RSL.

ETA: Now THIS is a great find, Eenie!
 
So no two hobos, no water, nowhere near where the Caw meets the Missouri. She was right he was carrying diamonds (which may have been in the excerpt from the videotape, and even if it wasn't...it's still a very easy assumption).

I hope this one ends up on SSB.
 
Browne wasn't right about the victim having one million dollars' worth of jewelry--Williams is the one that said that. What Browne got right was that the the perps would be caught, though she was wrong about them being linked to jewelers.
 
PSPaddict, she was wrong about everything.

Some hobos those two were- they owned and operated a buisness! He wasn't dumped into a river- he was in the woods. She said the jewelry would be fenced at some local department store and that didn't happen. She said another hobo would com forward. Someone did come forward; the police found the body cause of a tip but there's no indication it was a homeless man.

The only thing she had right was that there were 2 killers. The rest she cold-read back to the man's daughter and granddaughter.

I highlighted the million dollars to show how the article matches the reading. I wasn't sure at first if it was the same guy.
 
Has Browne ever been right about anything that could not be traced back to cold or warm reading? I'm not trying t be an ass here, I'm just curious.
 
Ok...now this one you can claim as hitting "PAY DIRT!" Nicely done.

GENERAL COMMENT/Question: Does anyone know, how much if any advance notice SB gets on the "guests" that are on during her appearances? That is to say, is she just showing up and doing everything cold...or does she get a list of folks who will be on, and what their question/issue is?
 
GENERAL COMMENT/Question: Does anyone know, how much if any advance notice SB gets on the "guests" that are on during her appearances? That is to say, is she just showing up and doing everything cold...or does she get a list of folks who will be on, and what their question/issue is?

Even if she doesn't get an e-mail update beforehand, she'll get briefed in the waiting room and overhear talk in the hallways, from prompters and directors, not to mention the summary movies about the case which she basically repeated back to them.
 
As Williams said Slayton had $1,000,000 in jewelry and the figure is also in the 2006 article it's probable that this is was also reported at some other time before the reading. It would be nice if someone with Lexis/Nexus access find this so that someone could make up a time showing what facts became public before and after the reading and then see if there's any pattern.... :id:
 
Has Browne ever been right about anything that could not be traced back to cold or warm reading? I'm not trying t be an ass here, I'm just curious.
"Traced?" I am not aware of her being right about anything which could not be explained by cold or warm reading.

GENERAL COMMENT/Question: Does anyone know, how much if any advance notice SB gets on the "guests" that are on during her appearances? That is to say, is she just showing up and doing everything cold...or does she get a list of folks who will be on, and what their question/issue is?
She claims that she knows nothing about the guests or their cases until she is told about them on camera in front of the studio audience.
 
It's obvious to me that the two hobos were watching Montel on a TV they bought with their new wealth. When the realized that Sylvia was on to them, they purchased some scuba gear, retrieved the body and buried it in a grave elsewhere. Then they framed the pawnbroker that fenced the jewelry for the murder. The authorities need to go find these hobos.
 
It's obvious to me that the two hobos were watching Montel on a TV they bought with their new wealth. When the realized that Sylvia was on to them, they purchased some scuba gear, retrieved the body and buried it in a grave elsewhere. Then they framed the pawnbroker that fenced the jewelry for the murder. The authorities need to go find these hobos.


You know...that is EXACLY what I was thinking!
 

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