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Bring back corporal punishment!

Jon_in_london

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Im officially a corporal punishment flag-waver.

Lets look at prison. Michael Howard is famous for saying 'prison works'. I disagree.

For one, its hellish expensive to keep people like that. Why should society have to pay for the upkeep of transgressors? nonsense! The cost of prisons is also rising. Seeing as how the bleeding heart, liberal, hand-wringing, beards and sandals brigade have made sure that prisons are no longer stinky dank dungeons but more like 5 star hotels complete with libraries, pool tables and satellite TV. WTF?!

For two, unless people come out of prison with skills and qualifications that are of use to society they are just going to re-offend and end up back in jail. The beardies would have society taxed just to pay for a transgressors education. But hold on! Why should decent law abiding citizens work their bollocks off day and night to earn enough money to afford the same qualifications and at the same time subsidize the expensive training of reprobates? WTF!?

For three, a great many convicts come out of prison even harder criminals than they were in the first place. We must immediately dismantle these Universities of Crime! WTF!?

Corporal punishment, on the other hand is cheap. It offers a ready deterent, as well as revenge for the victim. After the corporal punishment, (not the oral sex), offenders should be allowed back to their jobs but should work all of their free time on community service projects. There is no shortage of awfull jobs that I could find for them to do. They should work at least hours a day. That way they will be too tired to commit any more crimes. Vote for me as King and you will see, within one month there will be only trace levels of crime in this green and pleasant land!

(no jokes about major punishment etc... please).
 
Serves me right for skimming instead of reading.... :(

a thousand pardons sahib!
 
Here is an article with some interesting views on the subject. I have to admit, it would be difficult for me to argue against voluntary corporal punishment. Would that be an acceptable alternative? It seems there is prima facie evidence that it could work.
 
Jon_in_london said:


Do you want to get 200 lashes with a cat'o'nines?

Do I get to choose who does the lashing and what they'll be wearing?
 
Jon_in_london said:


Do you want to get 200 lashes with a cat'o'nines?

We may have been simulposting- did you see my link? I just happen to think that this is very interesting. Choose your own punishment! I'd support the death penalty if the prisoner had a choice.
 
Mr Manifesto said:


We may have been simulposting- did you see my link? I just happen to think that this is very interesting. Choose your own punishment! I'd support the death penalty if the prisoner had a choice.

I went to a school with corporal punishment. I would have prefered corporal punishment to detention. Nevertheless, corporal punishment was a much better 'teacher' than detention. Detention was boring and drawn out which is why I would have chosen to avoid it but when its literally your arse on the line, you tend to consider your planned transgressions a bit more seriously.
 
Jon_in_london said:


I went to a school with corporal punishment. I would have prefered corporal punishment to detention. Nevertheless, corporal punishment was a much better 'teacher' than detention. Detention was boring and drawn out which is why I would have chosen to avoid it but when its literally your arse on the line, you tend to consider your planned transgressions a bit more seriously.

Well, corporal punishment never worked for me. And, just to piss me off all the more, I got my last whack a mere day before it got banned in my state. WHY COULDN'T THEY HAVE BANNED IT A BIT SOONER? Stupid politicians.
 
Mr Manifesto said:


Well, corporal punishment never worked for me. And, just to piss me off all the more, I got my last whack a mere day before it got banned in my state. WHY COULDN'T THEY HAVE BANNED IT A BIT SOONER? Stupid politicians.

You should thank corporal punishment for the fact that you are a decent upright JREF poster rather than some scaly sh!t for brains- like reprobate like Richard G.

The simple fact that you are still so pissed off that you got punished a day before it was banned speaks for itself.
 
Mr. Manifesto wrote:

...just to piss me off all the more, I got my last whack a mere day before it got banned in my state.

So much for the "it improves one's moral character" argument in its favor.
 
Skeptic said:
Mr. Manifesto wrote:

...just to piss me off all the more, I got my last whack a mere day before it got banned in my state.

So much for the "it improves one's moral character" argument in its favor.

Yeah, I admit that I shouldn't've knocked down all those houses with the School Bulldozer, but I heard that it was the right thing to do if you were an Israeli. What can I say?
 
Mr Manifesto said:


Yeah, I admit that I shouldn't've knocked down all those houses with the School Bulldozer, but I heard that it was the right thing to do if you were an Israeli. What can I say?

Or fired on the democratically elected British MPs on a UN fact-finding mission to the Gaza Strip for that matter....
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Have you any evidence that corporal punishment works?

You personal experience of it didn't work, that's obvious. Although apparently you didn't like it too well; maybe it was stopped a few incidents too soon in your case?
 
Mr Manifesto said:


Yeah, I admit that I shouldn't've knocked down all those houses with the School Bulldozer, but I heard that it was the right thing to do if you were an Israeli. What can I say?

You know absolutely nothing at all about israel, do you, Mr. M?

But, since we're talking about israel and corporal punishment, there's an old joke about it.

An American, Frenchman, and israeli are captured by a blood-thirsty tribe of cannibal who are about to eat them. They get one last wish.

The American asks for a cold beer. The Frenchman for a glass of wine. The israeli asks to be kicked in the ass, really hard.

The tribal chief shrugs, and kicks him in the ass, really hard. The israeli skids ten feet forward from the kick, takes out a machine gun, and kills the cannibals.

The American and Frenchman ask: "why didn't you do that before???"

The israeli answers: "what? and be accused of starting the hostilities for no reason?"
 
Jon_in_london said:


I went to a school with corporal punishment. I would have prefered corporal punishment to detention. Nevertheless, corporal punishment was a much better 'teacher' than detention. Detention was boring and drawn out which is why I would have chosen to avoid it but when its literally your arse on the line, you tend to consider your planned transgressions a bit more seriously.

Agreed.. I was in a similar situation, and the thought process was something like: " Is this going to be worth a beating if I get caught ?... "

So, the stuff you did was usually pretty spectacular and even if you did get caught, it was worth the beating and the adoration of your peers...

To elaborate on your plan.. Definitely, public floggings..
You could hold them in sports arenas and sell tickets.. Even broadcast them on TV, with a ' Superbowl ' type event at least once a year.. Think " Half Time ".. " Janet Jackson ".. Yeeeeeeeesssssss !


Think of all the revenue you could generate instead of the drain of resources you detailed earlier..
 

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