Brain activity and consciousness

[Eos of the Eons]

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39182&pagenumber=2

I'm not explaining myself well here, so if anybody knows a lot about the brain please chime in.

Let me know if I'm making an @ss of myself too

My thought is that the brain is where all thought patterns are processed and thus is where we get our "consciousness" from.

The argument is that consciousness may occur without the brain, and therefore survive our deaths.

I find the argument preposterous due to my meanderings already posted on the thread.

We are two people stumbling around in a bit of ignorance where the brain is concerned because we obviously are not experts on neurology and the brain.

My arguments are very unconvincing to Batman Jr., and needless to say I am repeating myself.

Help?

Thanks,

Eos

 

[Dancing David]

AS of yet there is no evidence of consiousness that is not associated with an organic brain.
YOU can alter consiousness by altering the brain.
OTHERS can influence your consiousness by effecting your brain.


The current silly argument remains the irreducable nature of consiousness.

Mecrutio has maintained that there is no such thing as consiousness, only brain events.

I agree there are only the brain events that we lump together and call consiousness.

But up until the last moment that very single chain in the brain chemistry can be observed there will be those who claim that there is more to consiousness than brain events.

No evidence yet, just thier belief.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Awesome. Okay, I guess I made sense then

 

[DanishDynamite]

Hi there EE.

I made a comment to the thread you linked. Hopefully Jr. will make a reply.

In any case you did good.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Whew
I'll go see what you posted!

 

[evilgoldtoesock]

As far as I am concerned, human conciousness resides in the brain. Phineas Gage, the poor guy, serves as a perfect example. If the brain is damaged, the person is damaged.

It appears to me, however, that we will eventually learn to expand human conciousness outside of its confines in the brain.

As we begin to digitally map the patterns of human conciousness, we may learn how to create a form of existence that is not dependent on neural tissue. Already it seems that we are developing a "cyber-exsistence" of sorts, as we are becoming increasingly integrated with computers and digital information systems in our personal and work lives ...say, where DID I leave my cell phone?

That said, I'm not worried about any of this stuff happening overnight, and right now I'm content to stay in my organic brain that's made mostly of water.