Merged Bobby Menard has "something" coming! / Menard's Newest Scam...

[arayder]

Nazi Bob gets it wrong again!

https://www.facebook.com/robert.menard.52/posts/1598163220198753

That's pure bull ****, Bobby.

If you had bothered to pull your head out of your drunken arse you'd know that only a tiny percentage of Muslim's embrace the sort of hateful ideology you ascribe to the entire religion. The rest practice love, tolerance, forgiveness and the welcoming of strangers.

That's more than one can say for you. . .you beer soaked cheating scam artist.

I find it fascinating that you can puke these lies up while reviling Donald Trump, who spews the same lies as you.

Bobby, you are a disgusting, bigoted pig.

 

[fagin]

Nice rant.

Point being?

 

[arayder]

Nice rant.

Point being?

Nazi Bob's grossly inaccurate retelling of Islamic beliefs is the sort of mis-information that encourages prejudice.

Over the years Nazi Bob has misinformed his followers regarding the law, taxes and money. But his anti-semitic and anti-muslim posts are some of his most harmful lies.

Nazi Bob is an emotionally flawed nitwit who, over the years, has made a sickening habit of dehumanizing others so as to bolster his feelings of low self worth.

 

[fuelair]

Be nice if he "accidentally" fell into a not very deep vat of boiling acid as he clearly has no other use or real purpose.

 

[fuelair]

With all the others like it.

 

[arayder]

Be nice if he "accidentally" fell into a not very deep vat of boiling acid as he clearly has no other use or real purpose.

"No purpose" is right.

By his own admission Nazi Bob's favorite activity is getting on the internet to search for the mistakes of authority figures so he may have something to post on his Facebook page. Nazi Bob's go to move is taking childish cheap shots at the doers of the world for not batting a 1000%.

And to the point of this thread. . .when Nazi Bob can't find a bad cop, a corrupt politician or a witless judge to heap blame upon he singles out Muslims and Jews for his hateful rants.

 

[arayder]

Nazi Bob has another conspiracy theory

Nazi Bob Menard has yet another conspiracy theory posted on his Facebook page.

This one pukes up the notion that the United States financed and put in place The Third Reich, even to the point of promoting the Nazi war effort while the U.S. actively fought Hitler and his axis allies. The theory put forward in an EvolvePolitics video a shared by the Empty Fez goes on to claim that the U.S. set up and profited from Nazi death camps like Auschwitz!

Anyone bothering to to view the EvolvePolitics video, mindlessly posted by Nazi Bob, will quickly note that none of the video's claims are documented. Instead the viewer is treated to one unproven claim after another voiced in the expectation that it will be accepted because they are voiced by a slick announcer.

It is sickening to read through the comments and see Nazi Bob basking in the glory of his phony documentary "find".

This is the same sort of poor research, faulty logic and plain intellectual laziness that characterizes everything Menard, the Nazi apologist, does!

Shame on you Bobby!

 

[Ivanesca]

Nazi Bob Menard has yet another conspiracy theory posted on his Facebook page.

This one pukes up the notion that the United States financed and put in place The Third Reich, even to the point of promoting the Nazi war effort while the U.S. actively fought Hitler and his axis allies.

Well, the first part is partially true. Emphasis on "Partially". The fact is, the US and the rest of the world were feeling guilty towards Germany after the Versailles treaty, and began to see that it was wrong and unfair. So, they alleviated the symptoms/effects of Versailles via the Dawes and Young Plan, and the US in particular invested heavily in Weimar Germany during the twenties, to help them recover from the economic collapse brought about by Versailles. The Reason Weimar collapsed and the Nazis came to power was the great depression; US investors called in loans and withdrew their investment from Weimar Germany, resulting in another economic collapse. Thus, while it is true that the US financed Weimar Germany, the claim that they "financed" the Third Reich is bollocks, since they had nothing to "finance" with because of the Great depression.

 

[The Sparrow]

Well, the first part is partially true. Emphasis on "Partially". The fact is, the US and the rest of the world were feeling guilty towards Germany after the Versailles treaty, and began to see that it was wrong and unfair. So, they alleviated the symptoms/effects of Versailles via the Dawes and Young Plan, and the US in particular invested heavily in Weimar Germany during the twenties, to help them recover from the economic collapse brought about by Versailles. The Reason Weimar collapsed and the Nazis came to power was the great depression; US investors called in loans and withdrew their investment from Weimar Germany, resulting in another economic collapse. Thus, while it is true that the US financed Weimar Germany, the claim that they "financed" the Third Reich is bollocks, since they had nothing to "finance" with because of the Great depression.

This is why I hang out here. I learn stuff!

 

[Rincewind]

This is why I hang out here. I learn stuff!

agreed!

 

[smartcooky]

This is why I hang out here. I learn stuff!

Absolutely!

I regard my own knowledge of how and why the Weimar Republic became Nazi Germany as better than average, but I didn't know about the deal with US financing.

I wonder if the Nazis blamed the Jews for the withdrawal of US financial support? They blamed them for just about everything else.

 

[arayder]

. . . the claim that they [the U.S.] "financed" the Third Reich is bollocks, since they had nothing to "finance" with because of the Great depression.

The notion put forward by Menard is that the western democracies, having been corporatized the monied class, threw aside their core principles for the sake of profits from coal fields in far away eastern Europe and the slave labor of the yet to be holocaust victims.

Menard's purpose in telling this lie to foist upon his gullible followers the notion that governments, by their nature, are amoral and thus can't be allowed to enforce even the most elemental law.

I submit that this lie is really a projection of Menard's own failings. He knows he can't trusted and thus can't trust anyone or anything else.

 

[smartcooky]

The notion put forward by Menard is that the western democracies, having been corporatized the monied class, threw aside their core principles for the sake of profits from coal fields in far away eastern Europe and the slave labor of the yet to be holocaust victims.

Menard's purpose in telling this lie to foist upon his gullible followers the notion that governments, by their nature, are amoral and thus can't be allowed to enforce even the most elemental law.

I submit that this lie is really a projection of Menard's own failings. He knows he can't trusted and thus can't trust anyone or anything else.

Governments no, but I am sure there were wealthy US industrialists who, shall we say, had interests that were commensurate with not interfering in the rise of Nazi Germany, for example Robert Wood (Sears-Roebuck), H. Smith Richardson (Vicks Chemical Co) and Henry Ford (Ford Motor Co). Like others such as Charles Lindberg, they opposed the US entry into WW2, believing that good business would lead to prosperity, so there would be no need for war. Henry Ford was an anti-Semite. He accused the Jews of being the cause of the First World War, and during conversation with friends, he frequently said that "war is the product of greedy financiers who seek to profit from human destruction"... there is little doubt that Ford was referring to Jewish financiers when he said this. On 21 December 1940; almost a year before the US entered WW2, the first US Merchant ship (SS Charles Pratt) was torpedoed by a German U-Boat. Of this, Ford said that it was "the result of conspiratorial activities undertaken by financier war-makers"... i.o.w., he blamed the Jews for this too!

Despite stating publicly that he would not trade with belligerents, Ford continued to do business with Nazi Germany, including the manufacture of war materiel until Pearl Harbour, and the US subsequent entry to WW2

 

[arayder]

One might envision a similar situation today in which an amoral or slightly sympathetic industrialist sells Widget Inc. computer software to a bad acting nation which at the time of the sale is threatening a neighbor over a border dispute.

To the dismay of the world and Widget Inc.'s share holders the nation, using the sold software, goes on to start a bloody war with several nations in the region resulting in a staggering number of battlefield loses and civil casualties.

As the war worsens the leading nations of the world, including that of the software company, embargo sales to the bad acting nation which barely manages to rearm itself by dealing with arms manufacturers located in rouge nations. Worse yet, the rouge nations resell Widget products they acquired on world markets.

As the war winds down and there aren't many people in the region left to kill the parties settle into an uneasy peace brokered by the U.N. and the E.U.

Shocked at their part in what at the time seemed a profitable sale of software to a dicy leader of a country they could hardly find on the map, the stockholders of Widget Inc. insist that the company set up an ethics policy and a permanent committee tasked with overseeing the policy.

Of course this entire scenario is different from the tale told by the conspiracy theory foisted by Menard in which the U.S. government is said to have colluded with large corporations and nation across the world to create the Third Reich and back it to the very end of the war.

 

[LSSBB]

Well, the first part is partially true. Emphasis on "Partially". The fact is, the US and the rest of the world were feeling guilty towards Germany after the Versailles treaty, and began to see that it was wrong and unfair. So, they alleviated the symptoms/effects of Versailles via the Dawes and Young Plan, and the US in particular invested heavily in Weimar Germany during the twenties, to help them recover from the economic collapse brought about by Versailles. The Reason Weimar collapsed and the Nazis came to power was the great depression; US investors called in loans and withdrew their investment from Weimar Germany, resulting in another economic collapse. Thus, while it is true that the US financed Weimar Germany, the claim that they "financed" the Third Reich is bollocks, since they had nothing to "finance" with because of the Great depression.

Yes, it's very possible a Mormon (Reed Smoot, author of the Smoot-Hawley tariff act) created fertile ground for the rise of Hitler.

 

[ddt]

One might envision a similar situation today in which an amoral or slightly sympathetic industrialist sells Widget Inc. computer software to a bad acting nation which at the time of the sale is threatening a neighbor over a border dispute.

To the dismay of the world and Widget Inc.'s share holders the nation, using the sold software, goes on to start a bloody war with several nations in the region resulting in a staggering number of battlefield loses and civil casualties.

You mean like IBM sold punch card machines which facilitated the Nazis in carrying out the Holocaust?

 

[Rincewind]

I wonder how much control the US Parent of German subsidiaries actually had after the war had started/

For example - if Ford HQ in the USA tried to stop Ford Germany from supplying the Wehrmacht, what would have happened?

 

[arayder]

My understanding is that trade between the U.S. and Germany had ground to a halt by 1939. By then most U.S. corporations had effectively lost control their operations in Germany.

U.S. corporations with subsidiaries in Germany were forced by German law to keep profits in Germany and to "Aryanize" their operations in Germany.

Some corporations played along for a while thinking the Nazification of business in Germany as just the price of doing business there. But eventually most businesses just gave up and watched the Nazis take control of their holdings in Germany.

Fearing that the Third Reich would follow Italy's lead and legalize the theft of U.S. patents Standard Oil allowed IG Farben its German Standard Oil subsidiary to produce Ethyl GmbH, the gasoline additive Menard wrongly claims was sent to the Nazi's by evil U.S. corporations.

It seems that Menard, a well known Nazi apologist, just searched around for a phony documentary he thought would validate his hatred of western democracies.

 

[arayder]

My understanding is that trade between the U.S. and Germany had ground to a halt by 1939. By then most U.S. corporations had effectively lost control their operations in Germany.

U.S. corporations with subsidiaries in Germany were forced by German law to keep profits in Germany and to "Aryanize" their operations in Germany.

Some corporations played along for a while thinking the Nazification of business in Germany as just the price of doing business there. But eventually most businesses just gave up and watched the Nazis take control of their holdings in Germany.

Fearing that the Third Reich would follow Italy's lead and legalize the theft of U.S. patents Standard Oil allowed IG Farben its German Standard Oil subsidiary to produce Ethyl GmbH, the gasoline additive Menard wrongly claims was sent to the Nazi's by evil U.S. corporations.

It seems that Menard, a well known Nazi apologist, just searched around for a phony documentary he thought would validate his hatred of western democracies.

More to read here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9571041&postcount=2246

 

[arayder]

Did you ever notice that Bobby Menard decries all governments, except the Third Reich, as "corporations"!

One wonders if Menard and his like minded nazi apologist at the World Freeman Society are engaged in a conspiracy to validate the most odious government of the 20th century?