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Big Bang or Big Splash?

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Researchers: Early Universe Liquid-Like

Apr 18, 2005 — New results from a particle collider suggest that the universe behaved like a liquid in its earliest moments, not the fiery gas that was thought to have pervaded the first microseconds of existence.
 
Interesting!

This is why I do not believe in the reality (ontologically speaking) about some advanced scientific models. They can change at every moment. Not to say that now the BigSpash will remain as the most believed theory nor that we should forget about the BigBang. :p
 
Was the liquid mucous-like? Yet more evidence for the Great Green Arklesiezure theory!
 
Bodhi Dharma Zen said:
This is why I do not believe in the reality (ontologically speaking) about some advanced scientific models. They can change at every moment. Not to say that now the BigSpash will remain as the most believed theory nor that we should forget about the BigBang. :p
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Unbelievable. Did you actually read the freaking article? This idea has absolutely no bearing on the big bang model, merely the way matter behaved in the early universe.

Apparently a (somewhat) poorly titled thread is enough for you to discard decades of rigorous physics research...

Incidentally, I'm currently at the conference in Tampa where the paper was presented. It's fascinating stuff.
 
Or...God breathed life into the universe, and a booger came out. (Please God...just joking. No lightening bolts please)
 
Orangutan said:
Ohh Are you at the meeting of the American Physical Society?
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I sure am. I gave a paper on Sunday - but lest you think me smart, I'm about to go to the following talk:

http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/APR05/Event/29648

Crazy stuff.

I read they were going to be disputing a changing fine-structure constant. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7285. Let us know if there are any fist fights will ya?
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I couldn't see an article at that link, but I did go to the talk on the possibility of a changing fine structure constant. Surveys of galaxies up to redshift 1.4 show no change in the emission lines that would imply a changing fine structure constant. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but it looks very unlikely that it has altered significantly in the past 7-8 billion years (about half the age of the universe).

So far the only newsworthy results are that from RHIC, although I expect my experiment's results to be in the news soon. It's important, just not earth-shattering :)
 
SpaceFluffer said:
Incidentally, I'm currently at the conference in Tampa where the paper was presented. It's fascinating stuff.
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Great, perhaps you could explain what the article in the OP was going on about, since it seemed to be rather cyptic to me. It talks about the quark-gluon plasma having almost no viscosity- does that mean that it's a superfluid? Or does it mean something else entirely?
 
Why do we waste our time in searching for what the consistency of the universe was at some gazillionth of a second after it's birth? There will always be the question as to where *that* stuff came from.

And do any of you really believe that the entire mass of the universe was compressed into somethning the size of the head of a pin, prior to the Big Bang? Who comes up with all this stuff?

I think they create theories like this so that they get grants so that they don't have to go to work somewhere.
 
Iamme said:
Why do we waste our time in searching for what the consistency of the universe was at some gazillionth of a second after it's birth? There will always be the question as to where *that* stuff came from.
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which is what you deal with next

And do any of you really believe that the entire mass of the universe was compressed into somethning the size of the head of a pin, prior to the Big Bang? Who comes up with all this stuff?
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A grapefruit is more standard. What problem do you have with this thoery?

I think they create theories like this so that they get grants so that they don't have to go to work somewhere. [/B]
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Life in the acerdemic enviroment isn't easy.
 
Iamme said:
Why do we waste our time in searching for what the consistency of the universe was at some gazillionth of a second after it's birth? There will always be the question as to where *that* stuff came from.

And do any of you really believe that the entire mass of the universe was compressed into somethning the size of the head of a pin, prior to the Big Bang? Who comes up with all this stuff?

I think they create theories like this so that they get grants so that they don't have to go to work somewhere.
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You're right. I now believe goddidit.
 
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